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  •  I am very happy that OFA is not part of the DNC (1+ / 0-)
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    because we won't have to worry about certain Democratic members of Congress complaining to the DNC that we were calling into their districts urging people to call their congressmen and senators to support issues like health care reform.

    Barack Obama for President '12

    by v2aggie2 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:49:33 AM PST

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    •  OFA brand will be pushing SS & Medicare cuts (0+ / 0-)

      Health care reform is history.

      So, yes, we'll have to watch out for calls from outside, nominally Dem, organizations that pressure voters about cutting SS and engaging in deficit panic demagoguery.

      Those robo calls come from all sorts of shadowy organizations.  Voters place little stock in them, especially after the last campaign.  They're much more likely to listen to their Dem elected officials and candidates who are out in the community on a regular basis.  

      Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

      by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:47:26 AM PST

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      •  How do you know that? (2+ / 0-)
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        I have been active with OFA since 2008 as a volunteer leader and still am today.  And I have heard nothing of the sort.

        You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

        Barack Obama for President '12

        by v2aggie2 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 11:53:46 AM PST

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        •  ty (1+ / 0-)
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          •  My pleasure (0+ / 0-)

            Barack Obama for President '12

            by v2aggie2 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:13:40 PM PST

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            •  Also, keep in mind (0+ / 0-)

              Many of you folks are young, and new to Dem political work.  You may not be aware of how your work is being used by others.  

              You may have more loyalty to Obama than you do to the party as a whole.  The Democratic Party works on behalf of all Dems, not just one elected official.

              Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

              by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:25:26 PM PST

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              •  I've been working in politics since 2004 (0+ / 0-)

                and have worked for multiple Democratic candidates, so I don't need the condescending "lesson" that you feel is necessary.

                Barack Obama for President '12

                by v2aggie2 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 01:25:41 PM PST

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              •  So you'd be fine with Blue Dog Dems (1+ / 0-)
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                getting their hands on these sophisticated tools to turn back primary challenges from more progressive Democrats?

                That's obviously a rhetorical question. It's not quite as simple as "turn over all of it to the DNC!"

                •  That's exactly where they'll be used (0+ / 0-)

                  Obama wants more Blue Dog Dems in Congress, he's still unhappy with the losses Rahm's candidates incurred in the 2010 midterms.

                  Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

                  by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 07:52:45 PM PST

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        •  Past history (1+ / 0-)
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          OFA sat on their hands for most of the 2010 midterms.  They hoarded funds and assets that could have been used more effectively by the DNC and local Dem party organizations to mobilize voters.

          It appears this time around, they want to mobilize on their own, outside the confines of the real Democratic Party apparatus.  They may be working to defeat Republicans, but they may also be seeking revenge for the Blue Dog purge of 2010 by focusing efforts against progressive incumbent Dems and progressive Dem candidates.

          That's fine if they want to do that, but they don't need to be doing it with assets of the Dem Party.  

          Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

          by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:23:26 PM PST

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          •  I worked on the 2010 campaign for OFA (1+ / 0-)
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            with a focus on targeting first-time voters from 2008.

            So please get your facts straight -- OFA worked on the 2010 election.

            OFA moving forward is an issue-focused organization dedicated to supporting President Obama's agenda.  I am proud of being part of this and am unapologetic about it.

            Barack Obama for President '12

            by v2aggie2 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 01:29:30 PM PST

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            •  In my state, it was too little, too late (0+ / 0-)

              OFA didn't get involved until the final few weeks before the election.  The new voters they recruited in 2008 didn't turn out.

              We lost our Dem governor and now have had to suffer gerrymandering by the GoP, making it impossible to elect Dems to Congress until 2020.

              Dems need to keep and support their own organization, not some privately managed campaign group that reports to only one person.

              Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

              by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 07:57:33 PM PST

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            •  Didn't see OFA in 2010 here (0+ / 0-)

              We didn't see OFA in 2010 in WA and lost the 3rd CD in a close election.  Now it's re-district-ed R and will remain red for years.  (The districts in WA are drawn each 10 years to favor the party holding them.)  Not happy.  

              A bad idea isn't responsible for those who believe it. ---Stephen Cannell

              by YellerDog on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 07:58:46 PM PST

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            •  OFA worked in some places, maybe. In Central (0+ / 0-)

              Florida? Crickets. I'm talking the I-4 corridor.

              Don't hand me this shit that OFA was around in 2010. Your specific group or campaign effort may have been, but the actual boots-on-the-ground game was non-existent from where I sat (and I was working fairly closely with candidates and executive committees at the time).

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