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  •  great comment. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      The frenzied hyperbolic warmongering over what was essentially a monstrous criminal act to gin up everyone for a war has always mystified me.  Or, more precisely, why so many bought into the rhetoric, from "serious" news writers to ordinary people on the street..., and all not even a year after Dumbya, the most incredibly stupid man possible in the US and the most detested man on the planet whom "the powers that be" installed in the office (and why did Al Gore and John Kerry back away so quietly in abject defeat and not stand up on behalf of the people who voted for them?).

      Dumbya became "untouchable."  No impeachment proceedings, no investigations into his lies and war crimes.  Why?!?  The fact that he stayed in office for two terms (and now Obama is still carrying out the same policies per the Patriot Act, MCA '06, amended by Obama's MCA '09, still extends the FISA fiasco '08, keeps open the 'office of faith-based initiatives' created by Dumbya with an executive order..., and it seems Obama has bought into the meme of 'fixing Social Security' by putting our funds in the stock market, even after we had to bail out financial institutions to keep this country running) lends credence to the CT that a power stronger than the president has control of our elected officials... namely PNAC (web site) --- PNAC (Wiki page) or whatever new name they've become.

      I did a double-take when I saw Madeleine Albright's name as a signatory for the Statement of Principles several years ago on the PNAC web site; I notice her name has now been quietly removed (knowing it was there made me lose a whole lot of respect for her).  Most baffling of all, Democratic senators and reps who vote in favor of insanely stupid legislation that takes away our rights seem like they're all running scared (Harry Reid backing off on filibuster regulations is the latest idiocy) even as they give us the lamest excuses possible for voting in favor of not only extending the illegal and unconstitutional laws, but funding the two illegal and unconstitutional wars and giving corporations whatever they want and allowing them to write the legislation ("health insurance" we're forced to buy from corporations is only one of the biggest outrages on top of corporations that received record-setting profits from the Bushista wars and our rights that have not been officially restored).  Even the financial meltdown was started with a beloved Democratic president when Bill Clinton signed Gramm-Leach-Bliley which repealed Glass-Steagall which then led to the 'too big to fail' institutions our Congress Critters voted in favor of bailing out and nothing has replaced the Glass-Steagall regulations yet, so those same institutions are continuing their monetary grab.  Why?!?

      I'm normally a "just the facts, ma'am" person 'cuz (in my younger adult years) I have a law enforcement background that necessitated only cold hard facts and zero speculation, but the events of the last 13 years have given me reason to pause and wonder.  Curiouser and curiouser....

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:30:40 PM PST

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      •  Sorry that I saw this too late to rec. (0+ / 0-)

        You have a lot more detailed knowledge about how it all went down than me, but WHY has been my question too from just observing the events and our insane reactions to them. Seeing how so many of us knew better all along, how did the reason get so completely steamrolled? Through everything that you mention. And look where we are now, all our problems are so much WORSE.
        I am aware of what preceded Clinton and how bad that was, but yes, the seeds of a few startling additions to our problems got started during Clinton, another big one being the media consolidation.  Why would anyone think that was a good idea?
        Currently I don't see evidence that we humans, as a whole, are sane. Maybe there are some pockets that quietly live their lives well, that we don't get to hear about. Unfortunately the rest of us are going to screw those people over too. Everything is much too strongly connected these days.

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