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  •  the Lehigh Valley IWW branch, back in the 90's (3+ / 0-)
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    always ran our meetings on consensus, very similar to what Occupy ended up doing later. But we were a small group who basically all had the same ideas, so it was not hard for us to reach consensus. In areas such as strikes or actions where it wasn't possible to run by committee, we pre-authorized individual organizers to go ahead and do whatever needed to be done, and we'd back them up. We could do that because we knew all of us would essentially do the same things, and we all trusted each other to make the right on-the-spot decisions.

    Occupy had none of that. It contained a wide variety of people from every imaginable viewpoint, nearly all of whom had never organized anything before and had no idea what they were doing. That's why Occupy consisted mostly of talking. And more talking. And yet more talking.

    •  yes, my Minneapolis IWW also ran on (1+ / 0-)
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      consensus. Likewise a small group.

      But in the history of the huge IWW strikes, numbering thousands of people, that wouldn't work. And, anyway, endless discussion do not work when you're in the thick of the fight.

      WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For Jan: USW Local Mourns Fallen Brother

      by JayRaye on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:54:32 PM PST

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    •  there's more value in that than you (1+ / 0-)
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      perhaps have considered. No doubt it could have been much more. Still, Occupy was, hands down, the most successful protest I've ever seen or been part of since I was a teenager and became politically active (80s).

      As a movement, rather than a protest, it could have been much much more than it was, but nevertheless accomplished some things that I am very glad were accomplished.  Americans talking to each other in a public space not mediated by the media about their economic problems? Unheard of, before Occupy (at least anywhere I've ever lived). Communities being formed of a bunch of strangers? Again, nearly unheard of.  A Presidential campaign altering its rhetoric because of a protest? Also unheard of.  And, last but not least, don't forget this:

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:53:01 PM PST

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