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  •  Ted Cruz (7+ / 0-)

    Texas's 1st Hispanic Senator- Against

    He has already become quite an embarrassment to Texas.

    Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

    by DRo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 10:49:14 AM PST

    •  Between Ted Cruz and Rand Paul (6+ / 0-)

      The Jokes write themselves

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 10:52:04 AM PST

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    •  Ted Cruz's "rule of law" (3+ / 0-)
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      Thanks for the link to that article, DRo.

      So Ted Cruz is worried about respect for the rule of law if people who are already in the U.S. as undocumented workers are given a process for becoming legal and documented. All those other people outside the country who played by the rules would be disadvantaged by changing the rules now, he argues.

      And yet his own father, a Cuban, came to the United States in 1957. He has become a naturalized citizen by now.

      I don't know what Rafael Cruz's status was when he came, although, since he says he didn't speak a word of English when he arrived, it is possible that he did not have a green card.

      Whether he did or not, between 1957 and now the immigration rules for Cubans who arrive without documentation have undergone changes.

      Did it violate the "rule of law" when the law was changed to say that a Cuban who reached "dry land" in the U.S. got to stay as a permanent resident, a rule that did not apply to people from any other country?

      The "rule of law" means operating in accordance with the law. It doesn't mean that a law is set in stone, never to be changed.

      •  Agreed. (3+ / 0-)
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        This is a conflict between Cubans and other Hispanics that is yet to play out.

        Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

        by DRo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 11:22:39 AM PST

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      •  Background (1+ / 0-)
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        Cruz was born Rafael Cruz in Canada, where his Cuban father and Irish-American mother had moved for the 1960s oil boom. They had met at an oil exploration business in Texas.
        As a teenager, his father fought for Fidel Castro against Fulgencio Batista. “They didn’t know Castro was a Communist, what they knew was that Batista was a cruel and oppressive dictator,” Cruz said earlier this year.
        After being imprisoned and tortured by the Batista regime, the elder Rafael Cruz came to America on a student visa with nothing but $100 sewn into his underwear. He made his way through the University of Texas by washing dishes.

        Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

        by DRo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 11:31:06 AM PST

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        •  Thanks for this information (1+ / 0-)
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          I had looked around a little and not discovered this info.

          Ted Cruz probably doesn't really think that amending the law is the same as violating the rule of law. But he talks about this issue as if that's what you're doing if you adopt rules that are more favorable to someone than the old rules were.

          Yet, if we look at the history of the entry into the U.S. of Cubans, we can see that law and policy has changed over the years. Along the way, Cubans became the only people who snagged permanent residence if they could reach the United States, just on the strength of being Cuban citizens. "Undocumented" doesn't apply if the federal government documents you on arrival, no questions asked.

          I haven't heard him denouncing that change, but that could just be my ignorance of what he's said.

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