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  •  I found 'An American Tragedy' had a rough power (8+ / 0-)

    to it, though the tragedy is ultimately sad and senseless.

    I'm sorry to hear that about Wolf Hall, but so many have recommended it that I'll have to see for myself. I can stomach a pretty bleak book, if it's well-written. And some say Bringing up the Bodies is better.

    "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

    by Brecht on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 06:14:11 PM PST

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    •  Bring up the Bodies (6+ / 0-)
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      is, I think better.  But to know Cromwell better, read Wolf hall first.  It's not all bleak because there is a twisted sense of humor running through it.

      Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

      by barbwires on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 07:06:20 PM PST

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    •  true, since Clyde Griffiths is such a..... (4+ / 0-)
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      ......insignificant person, a very ordinary guy.  It is tragic since he buys into the whole money and social status thing, but then so do many of us, even on this side of the political spectrum.  Irving Howe said that Clyde Griffiths is an example of not American collective greatness, but American collective smallness.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 10:04:28 PM PST

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      •  Irving Howe was right (2+ / 0-)
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        also senseless, in that despite his smallness, Clyde could have been okay if he'd just put in a little work, kindness and loyalty.

        I guess that's the point though. If you take the rat race too seriously, you become a rat.

        "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

        by Brecht on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 03:54:23 PM PST

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        •  also if he had..... (2+ / 0-)
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          ......accepted Roberta as she was, and didn't (metaphorically) throw her under the bus chasing after Sondra, who was unattainable anyway.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 04:30:10 PM PST

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