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  •  The scienc-y thing to do... (29+ / 0-)

    Insurance providers should not rebuild in areas destroyed by storm surge from a Cat 2 or lower hurricane (or equivalent winter storm, which Sandy turned into just before she hit.).  Instead, let the proceeds of the insurance be used to replace housing on higher ground.  (Insurance replaces the cost of constructing new -- the owners of a home in Brooklyn might have to move to Queens or a Long Island suburb.)

    Abandoned areas should be left to Nature to develop as she pleases, perhaps with a gentle assist from humans.   It's possible that areas in the inundation zone can be converted into parks and nature reserves that would be an asset to the neighbors.  

    "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

    by Yamaneko2 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:14:24 PM PST

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    •  not a bad idea (13+ / 0-)

      that would promote relocation to safer areas.


      But what about the problem of "buying the land"

      -- which i believe it a main reason for staying put,

      since they already own the land.

      which is often it's hard to sell after a disaster.


      Here's how the game is really Rigged.

      by jamess on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:17:21 PM PST

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    •  It's not just the inadvisability of rebuilding (13+ / 0-)

      homes, but the  strong case that utilties cannot be protected against these events. Houses on stilts, built to withstand hurricanes, but, gas, potable water, sewage and electricity to serve them? They would have to be buried in watertight bunkers. It's crazy. A very strong , logical case was made, referred to on dailylos, not to rebuild New Orleans. It certainly convinced me. I cannot remember the professor or expert quoted, but his or her case was compelling.

      "...stories of past courage can define that ingredient..... But they cannot supply courage itself. For this each man must look into his own soul." JFK Profiles in Courage " Ontario

      by ontario on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 09:56:56 PM PST

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      •  well, you can integrate off grid energy (2+ / 0-)
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        into these homes, no problem. Well, not no problem, but it can definitely be done.

        Water and sewage might be a problem, but electricity and gas should not be.

        if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 09:49:30 AM PST

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        •   A new Yorker was telling me tonight that many of (1+ / 0-)
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          these older shore NY/NJ communities had homes operating on substandard septics or holding tanks, which would never be approved again for a rebuild.

          I read this heartbreaking update today. Well worth reading in its entirety.

          http://bigstory.ap.org/...

          Apropos my earlier point, the article says this:

          While Congress passed a $50.5 billion emergency aid package on Monday, many say the rebuilding has been complicated over the past several weeks by bureaucracy. Some people are still living in mold-infested homes, while others are desperately trying to persuade the city to tear theirs down. Illegal immigrants who don't qualify for federal aid are struggling to scrape by. Small businesses are shutting down in neighborhoods where nobody seems to shop anymore.

          Federal officials say they understand the frustration and are working as quickly as possible to compensate people for their losses and rebuild.

          "The infrastructure and the homes that were in place that Sandy took away took a lot longer than 90 days to be built up and put into place," said Michael Byrne, who is overseeing the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Sandy response in New York state. "If there's any assurances I can give folks that feel that way, we're not leaving until we get it done."

          The Oct. 29 storm damaged or destroyed 305,000 housing units and disrupted more than 265,000 businesses in New York state. About 14,000 housing units have been repaired so far through New York City's Rapid Repairs program. In New Jersey, 346,000 housing units were destroyed or damaged, and 190,000 businesses affected. Nearly 18,000 households have received aid for repairs from FEMA.

          Just imagine all those businesses lost too. As I say, read the whole thing, for a much broader picture.

          "...stories of past courage can define that ingredient..... But they cannot supply courage itself. For this each man must look into his own soul." JFK Profiles in Courage " Ontario

          by ontario on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 09:11:32 PM PST

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