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  •  Who knew that Barney Frank owed that seat? smh (3+ / 0-)
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    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 10:53:41 AM PST

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    •  ... (1+ / 0-)
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      I think the white liberal privilege has struck again.

      The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

      by lcj98 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 11:13:24 AM PST

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      •  Just bs imo (0+ / 0-)

        "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

        by LaurenMonica on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 11:30:02 AM PST

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      •  Experience and knowledge (0+ / 0-)

        is not privilege.

        •  right... (2+ / 0-)
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          because being the chief-of-staff to the governor of Massachusetts doesn't come with that.

          The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

          by lcj98 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 11:59:23 AM PST

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          •  Are you really equating (1+ / 0-)
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            the experience and knowledge which comes from being the chief of staff of a Governor with the experience and knowledge of having written and passed one of the most significant pieces of legislation in the past 4 years when it comes to who is most qualified to be in the Federal Government for the next 6 months?  And I wasn't saying anything about Cowan.  I was responding to your absurd statement that wanting the author of the Dodd-Frank Act is somehow "white liberal privilege".

            •  Yes I am... (0+ / 0-)

              And that's me purposely ignoring the fact that then Rep. Frank was telling anyone who would listen that he was done with politics.  Dude played himself...  Now, do you want to talk about how you think the black former chief-of-staff to the black governor of Mass doesn't have enough experience in government?

              The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

              by lcj98 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:39:14 PM PST

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      •  That's absurd (0+ / 0-)
        I think the white liberal privilege has struck again.
        A lot of people hear have good things to see about our new Sen. Cowan, but he's never held elective office before. Frank was in the House for 30 years and chaired the Finance Committee. There are legitimate reasons for thinking he'd be more qualified for a short-term Senate appointment.

        Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

        by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:43:46 PM PST

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        •  That's not the argument being made... (0+ / 0-)

          It's all about how Gov. Deval is playing crony politics and how Mr. Cowan allegedly isn't  "qualified enough".

          The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

          by lcj98 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:53:05 PM PST

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          •  Compared to a 30-year Congressman (0+ / 0-)

            he isn't. What's the argument for why Cowan's the best choice?

            And isn't naming your ex-chief-of-staff, whom most people in your state have never heard of, a pretty good definition of "crony politics."

            Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

            by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 01:17:20 PM PST

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              The man is over 30, a US citizen and has experience working in the highest level of governance.  How does that not make his the best choice for a temporary appointment?

              Funny, I thought liberal would be happy there's a black Democratic senator.  I stand corrected.

              The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

              by lcj98 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 02:13:34 PM PST

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              •  If that's the test (0+ / 0-)

                there are about 2,500 people in Massachusetts who meet that test. What makes him "best" of them? Heading the staff in the Governor's office has little to do with the U.S. Senate. It's not even the same "government."

                Having a black Democratic senator is great, except for the fact that there were more experienced options at a critical time in our nation's history. Having just lost a very senior Senator, and lost Ted Kennedy only a few years ago, the last thing we need is to have another rookie during these crucial few months.

                There is no racial component here at all, hard as you might try to create one. If John Conyers retired from the House and a white Democratic governor picked his white chief of staff over Conyers for a five-month stint in the Senate, I'd have the exact same view of it.

                Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 02:30:56 PM PST

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    •  It's a unique situation (1+ / 0-)
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      No one owns (I assume that's what you meant to write) that seat except the people of the State.  And certainly the Governor doesn't "own" the seat.  The question should have been who would best serve the people - someone who knows intimately the system and the players or someone who is going to have to get on the job training for a job which only lasts less than 6 months.  It is an extraordinary situation to have someone like Frank completely available, someone who is current with the particular dynamics of the government at this moment, someone who is extremely knowledgable about budgets and finance at a time when that will be a big issue these next few months.  We all know how Harry Reid could utilize a Senator Frank's talents during his short term in office.  Does anyone who is lauding this pick have any idea how Senator Cowan can be used or what he possibly could accomplish in less than 6 months?  If Cowan has the makings of a good Senator, he should have run for the open seat and be given a fair 6 years, not 6 months, to grow into the job.  What does this selection do for the people of the State?

      •  Yet you declared that Frank shld have been (0+ / 0-)

        appointed? You are contradicting yourself.

        If Cowan has the makings of a good Senator, he should have run for the open seat and be given a fair 6 years, not 6 months, to grow into the job
        Did Cowan tell he would run for the special election? Do you have information we dont know? Much like Ted Kennedy's CoS who was appointed by Patrick in 2009 after Ted Kennedy's death, Cowan will certainly not run in six months. He is just an interim senator

        And you know nothing about him to advance that he is less qualified than Barney Frank.

        "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

        by LaurenMonica on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 11:29:19 AM PST

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        •  Nonsense. (0+ / 0-)

          I know that he has no Federal government experience.  I know that he is not as up to date about the particular process or specifics of the issues that he will be facing.  I know that he is not as familiar with the personalities and egos of the people he will be dealing with.  I'm not saying that Cowan couldn't become as good or better than Frank as Senator, but in 6 months, or really in the next month, he won't be.  It's as simple as that.  Why is Warren such an extraordinary good choice?  Because her particular experience and knowledge perfectly suits her to be on the Banking Committee.  Great choice.  We know how Frank could have been used.  What in Cowan's resume which is limited to State Government will make him a good Senator next week?  By the time he gets up to speed he will be out and won't even be able to use the experience he gets in a meaningful specific way toward filling the seat long term.  

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