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  •  Washington and Jefferson (13+ / 0-)

    Both grew Hemp on their Farms.  Hell, some places in
    Colonial America made Hemp cultivation a Requirement.

    The Hemp fibers are damned tough. Items made from
    Hemp fiber are extremely durable.

    The Hemp seeds can be processed into cooking oil and
    the crushed seeds can be used to feed farm animals.

    Legalizing Hemp production could provide lots of Tax
    revenue to the States.

    Legalizing Hemp Production would also Destroy the
    Corporate Tobacco Business in short Order.

    Corporate Tobacco is spending millions to BRIBE Congress
    to Make sure that Hemp stays Illegal.

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    by Brian76239 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:22:09 AM PST

    •  Hemp seed also makes excellent (8+ / 0-)

      fishing bait.

      Every tackle shop sold it when I was a kid.

      I believe it was the cotton industry that lobbied hardest to get rid of hemp ... It was serious competition.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      Who is twigg?

      by twigg on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:38:15 AM PST

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      •  Cotton and the chemical industry too (6+ / 0-)

        Hemp fiber was a competitor to Dupont's nylon and other artificial materials.

        "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

        by rocksout on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 07:12:45 AM PST

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        •  Randolph P. Hearst (7+ / 0-)

          i.e. The Hearst Paper Company got hemp illegal, used propaganda (i.e. Reefer Madness) to demonize pot to begin with.

          -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

          by MarciaJ720 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 07:47:47 AM PST

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          •  If I wasn't so optimistic (3+ / 0-)
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            I'd say there was collusion.

            "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

            by rocksout on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 08:05:50 AM PST

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          •  True Marijuana is a slang term and not a drug (1+ / 0-)
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            Before the invention of the Hemp Decorticator during the Great Depression "marijuana" was a slang term used by Mexican migrant workers for wild tobacco plants which was used to villianize the entire genus of cannabis plants to promote prohibition.

            Even today marijuana is still just a slang term for the dried female flowers and leaves of only the varieties of cannabis plants that produce significant concentrations of the only scheduled cannabinoid, Dronabinol (THC), out of more than sixty cannabinoids found in cannabis resins.

            Wealthy and politically powerful people like William Randolf Hearst and Andrew Mellow felt threatened by hemp paper and fiber production as the costs of production declined after the invention of the Hemp Decorticator. The slang term "marijuana" was first linked to cannabis plants by the sensationalized stories about crazed Mexican's committing horrific crimes under the influence of "Marihuana".

            "Marijuana" was originally created as a rhetorical device to frame the case for the prohibition of the the entire genus of cannabis plants to prevent hemp from competing with other sources of organic and synthetic fibers. Today "marijuana" is still used as a rhetorical device to frame the debate by vested interests to shift the debate away from the science around the cannabinoids in cannabis resins.

            Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

            by RMForbes on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 07:32:20 PM PST

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        •  We were actually producing less hemp when it (5+ / 0-)

          was outlawed than we'd produced back in colonial days.

          It was an all time low.  Manila rope didn't need to be tarred, so it had killed the cordage market.  We had plenty of trees, the government was giving away timber leases so wood pulp paper, while much lower in quality, was much cheaper.  Jute was being used for all the rough cloth uses like sacking that hemp had once been used for.

          However, there was a new machine going into to production that had the promise to make hemp competitive again for many uses, from paper to cloth.

          But it hadn't gone into production yet.  In 1929 we only had something like 600 acres of hemp growing in the whole US.

          "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

          by JesseCW on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:15:15 AM PST

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    •  I've also heard (2+ / 0-)
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      that it can be grown with less pesticide use but I don't remember the details.

      An unsuccessful shoe bomb attack resulted in nine years of inconvenience for every flier in the country. It would be nice to think [this diabolical act] might lead to some similar inconveniences. --mrblifil

      by Debby on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:37:15 AM PST

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    •  How Do You Figure? (1+ / 0-)
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      Legalizing Hemp Production would also Destroy the Corporate Tobacco Business in short Order.
      First, how do you figure that this will occur? I know lots of folks who smoke both tobacco and marijuana.

      It's not clear if you are conflating hemp cannabis and gets-you-high cannabis. Which is it? There are considerable practical differences.

      Not sure if corporate tobacco is concerned with the production of hemp, which would be for fiber. Did I miss something?

      "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

      by paz3 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 08:33:58 AM PST

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      •  Hemp is a Generic Term (1+ / 0-)
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        that is commonly used to Describe ALL the different
        varieties of a Plant known as Canabis Sativa.

        Certain Varieties are grown for making Fiber.

        Other Varieties are Grown for Smoking.

        They are Different Varieties of the SAME Plant.

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        by Brian76239 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 02:14:04 PM PST

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