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  •  so are you arguing that (1+ / 0-)
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    you should have been dishonorably discharged or that you should have been promoted?

    •  I think he is pointing out (13+ / 0-)

      that the whole thing is ridiculous.

      People who relax at night with a joint rather than a beer are demonized and accused of not being able to function.

      WRONG.  I've known too many very successful people who used pot to relax and some use it to keep from the big bad drug, alcohol.

      You can smoke pot until you are silly and maybe have a headache but you can still function and snap out of it.

      Alcohol - is the root of so much death in America, especially when one uses alcohol and then gets into a car and drives, picks up a gun, gets mad at his spouse for not looking at him the "right way" or whatever.

      Prohibition of pot is economics......  

      The DEA
      The Pharmacuetical Companies
      The Alcohol Industry
      The Lawyers
      The Judges
      The Prisons for Profit

      It all adds up to continued illegality for something I'd much rather have legal than alcohol.  People who have been drinking can be quite unstable and do some crazy things (I know, been there, done that).

      And if you were a cop - would you rather arrest a bunch of people stoned on pot or drunk on alcohol?  Yeah, the stoners are easy targets.

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 07:45:43 AM PST

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      •  i know plenty of people (4+ / 0-)
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        who did fine and smoked as well.

        i do disagree that you can snap out of it if needed, at least not in my experience, and not watching people I know. their thinking was impaired as if they were drunk when it came to decisions, driving, talking, walking, etc, which is why i feel alcohol and marijuana should be treated similarly.

        i just couldn't figure out which side he was arguing, that the military should have enforced its rules earlier, or that the rules are dumb.

        •  Its a fair question (5+ / 0-)

          Both.

          The rules are dumb, as evidenced by the fact that I use the substance but was able to get a promotion recommendation. The assumption is that smoking pot is inherently bad, which in my experience is patently untrue.

          But if this is a rule they want to take seriously, then don't give out free passes along the way then all of a sudden come down on my head after I've been around for six years.

          I'm no martyr. I knowingly broke a rule and was caught. I will be punished and thats the way it works. But I just think the whole thing is absurd.

          There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

          by slothlax on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 01:02:45 PM PST

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          •  i can agree with that (0+ / 0-)

            I think what you're trying to say is that they were inconsistent. if they're going to let it slide, let it slide; if they're going to be strict, be strict.

            •  Just be competent (1+ / 0-)
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              Its not like my unit was being lenient, they were never notified of my positive results.  Its hard for me to justify getting punished for this thing that supposedly makes you incompetent when the Army wasn't competent enough to do anything about it the first three times they had me dead to rights.

              All that said, given the illegality of the substance and the need to cavort with a criminal element to get it, there are valid reasons beyond the direct effect of the drug to discourage its use in the military.  But ultimately that just circles back the underlying problem of making something illegal that shouldn't be.

              There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

              by slothlax on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 03:31:53 PM PST

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      •  Don't forget (4+ / 0-)
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        the banks, who would have gone under without the profits from money laundering.

        the purpose of the second amendment is to promote a well-regulated militia, in the same sense that the purpose of the first amendment is to promote a well-informed electorate.

        by happymisanthropy on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:29:30 AM PST

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        •  Actually, there's two even bigger (6+ / 0-)

          The Timber Industry.  And the Textile Industry.

          Hemp could effectively drop the bottom out of cotton, paper and synthetic textiles industries if grown commercially in the United States.  It's better for the land, rapidly renewable and consumes no petroleum products (other than those needed to run machinery for harvest and processing).  It makes a strong and soft fiber product which is biodegradable -- read that as cloth and all kinds of paper products.  It can be used to make fiberboard and plywood and pressboard and rope.  It grows just about anywhere in North America.  It does not require heavy-duty chemical fertilizers.

          Hemp and its by-products -- one of which is NOT weed, which is another variant altogether -- could quite literally relegate King Cotton and Big Timber (which, by the way, means Koch Industries) to the sidelines within a decade if it were legal.

          The threat of both THC-bearing and non-THC bearing hemp is so great that to preserve the economic status quo, all variants of the plant must remain illegal -- which is a classic example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

          The ground is being cut away around the opponents of hemp.  Hemp oil shows up in soaps and toiletries.  Hemp cloth and clothing in trendy stores, all imported.   When I was growing up, you might have seen a few hemp bracelets in a natural food store or head shop, but nothing more.  Now you can by hemp towels, sheets, shirts, underwear...

          The medicinal uses of marijuana are becoming undeniable.  As a recreational drug, it's less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco.  As a pain and nausea management tool, it has few equals in pharmacy.

          The push to legalize it and tax the heck out of it is growing.  It's a source of revenue we've ignored for decades.

          Someday, our descendants will shake their heads at our stupidity the way we shake our heads at the people who believed that bathing would make you sick.

          History should teach humility and prudence, but America doesn't seem to learn. I've never seen a virgin who loses her innocence so often. -- Gordon Wood

          by stormicats on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 12:03:01 PM PST

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