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  •  It's not denial (1+ / 0-)
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    Ginny in CO

    It's that many people see Hillary as the best chance to elect the first woman president.

    Just because of that, there will be a lot of pressure on her to run until either she definitively slams the door shut, or other viable women candidates for 2016 take the stage.

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    by MJB on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 04:51:24 PM PST

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    •  I want to as well on the 1st woman as we did (1+ / 0-)
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      on the 1st AA. She has a lot of talent and experience. Environment is not included. It is essential. Nor do I think she is progressive enough. Couple of votes really upset me.

      Other women will be getting up there, and men. I am more interested in the best Dem than a first or second anything.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:08:28 PM PST

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      •  Agree on the progressive part... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... another reason that people like HRC as a candidate is that she is tough.  She won't let the VRWC roll her over.  

        The value of being tough and standing up for yourself can be seen in the contrast between HRC's performance before a senate committee last week as opposed to Hagel's performance before a senate committee on Thursday.  We absolutely have to have a presidential nominee with the gumption to take everything and dish it back twice as hard.  No more Dukakises, ever.

        So, if a candidate like that, only more progressive, emerges, then yeah, a lot of us will take notice.

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        by MJB on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 11:26:25 PM PST

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        •  Well as a Dukakis Democrat, I resemble that. ;) (1+ / 0-)
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          He had a hell of a lot of highly organized, under the radar negative slander from the evangelical movement. What's his face who did the Willie ads and apologized years later when he had an incurable brain tumor was all too effective above the radar.

          And then the Dems kept repeating the GOP talking crap instead of having his back. It was really clear to me from an experience at the caucuses and a seminar I took after, that the GOP machine was in high gear, very effective and really ugly with the lies, etc. It took 20 years for Dems to really get that method through their heads.

          Meanwhile we lost Gore and Kerry. I sometimes wonder why some of the candidates are willing to jump in our campaigns as much as we tear down our own.

          Tough talk doesn't impress me that much. She is smart but I don't think she is very good in how she articulates things. The 'what does it matter' comment that so many were impressed by I thought was lame. I thought Hagel dodged the stoopid from Cruz and McCain, letting them show the extent of the crazy ideology. Just had to score points, regardless of meaning or importance.

          I grew up with a lot of intelligent conversation and think that people who can articulate their ideas well, understand how other people think so the comments are geared to greater understanding get farther. In politics you have to be willing to 'lose' the argument with adversaries as long as you win with your cohorts and take that to the public.

          What Obama has really done for us is the 21st century presidential campaign management, organization, etc. With the GOP digging their own grave, as long as the redistricting fails, we should be able to win '16.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:06:21 AM PST

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