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  •  but my phone is a chunk of plastic (1+ / 0-)
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    EeDan

    the service is what makes it useful to me.   Are you advocating we shouldn't have to pay monthly service?  Or that there should be a pooled service account and the companies track which service was used and the providers take their share?   Or exactly what is it that you want all of us to do?   Because I am still not sure that  what you are describing is not theft under current contracts.   If we want to change the laws and the contracts and the very nature of mobile service to something consumer friendly, great.   But I don't get the feeling that is what you are selling.

    •  NO (8+ / 0-)

      I'm saying you own the phone you should be able to do what you want with your own property.  This includes getting the most value out of selling it.  Or taking the phone you own to a cheaper or better service when you have completed your contract with your previous phone company.

    •  No theft of service involved. (7+ / 0-)

      Simply a decision to pay another provider for service.  It can happen after the original contract expires, or the user may elect to terminate their contract early by paying the penalty.

      Would it make sense for a home (landline) phone to only work with a specific telco but be useless if you moved to a different part of the country?

      That which doesn't kill me merely postpones the inevitable.

      by EeDan on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:41:11 PM PST

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        EeDan

        that explains it, you buy service from a new provider not the one you obtained the phone from.

        I appreciate the explanation.   I am not interested in the technology behind the phones, so I really didn't understand.   I thought it allowed one to roam service providers while only paying one of them.

    •  You sign a contract (5+ / 0-)
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      qw3rty, theboz, Flying Goat, denise b, Creosote

      for two years.  Your phone might be fine for five or even ten (that's how long I kept my first one).  Why shouldn't you be free to change carriers after your contract expires?  That was the whole purpose of the hullaballoo about being able to keep your cell-phone NUMBER when you switched carriers.  Not being able to use your own phone is ridiculous.  Especially in a situation like travelling to Europe, where your carrier most likely doesn't even provide service, certainly doesn't provide it at any reasonable rate, and you can buy a local SIMM card at five different stands in any mall.

      •  Your Choice of Apps (0+ / 0-)

        Most people "root' or "jailbreak" their phones today because their carrier locked out some of the phone's features. Either out of greed, ignorance, rush to market, laziness, or a mistake. Until now you could legally fix that. Now you're stuck with whatever they did to "your" phone.

        And of course all of those problems tend to profit the telco. At your further expense.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 05:24:51 AM PST

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    •  Your Data (4+ / 0-)
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      footNmouth, Tinfoil Hat, jfromga, qw3rty

      Your phone numbers aren't the service. Your apps, emails, calendar, everything that isn't the service. They're yours.

      Except they're not. They're your phone company's now. You can't do what you want with them, even if the phone does. Apple or AT&T want to stop you from calling dial-a-prayer? Too bad for you. Stop calling people in your address book whose names match the "terrorist watch list"? Too bad for you.

      Want to switch carriers after your contract expires? Too bad. Your hunk of plastic is just a hunk of plastic - no service. Want to move your contacts off that phone to a new one on a new carrier? AT&T locks that out. Too bad for you. Want to move around without your GPS registering your every move to the same telco that wiretapped all your calls and read all your email the past decade? Too bad for you.

      The list goes on and on. This principle is why even the AT&T monopoly was forced you to let you own your phone in the 1980s, even before AT&T was "broken up" (it's reassembled itself since then).

      Just stop and think about it. If your car were like your phone, you couldn't use any mechanic, fill it with any gas, drive wherever or whenever you wanted. That would suck, and you'd know your freedom was crippled. Realize that your phone is even more personal and critical to your life.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 05:22:16 AM PST

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      •  thank you (0+ / 0-)

        that helped to explain further why locking the phone is a problem.  Even what is mine and had nothing to do with patents or any company,  is not really mine.

        Of course,  the real answer is to make this theft of private informatoin  and anti-competitive behavior illegal.  But since the big companies own the legislature one man or the US Congress, we're going to be screwed.

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