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  •  It almost does, but you're right, not quite. (1+ / 0-)
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    Chitown Kev

    However, the Nazi policies were perfectly sensible in light of their goals:

    1. Even without all the eugenics crap, there is a huge political benefit in identifying a scapegoat on which to focus animosity.  It's especially beneficial if that group has plenty of wealth to plunder, and created, by its successes, resentments in the people you wish to reach.

    2.  The Nazis were not the only believers in eugenics, and lots of discredited science was in vogue at the time.  Remember -- we are taling 80-90 years ago.  Just because beliefs are strange and discredited in light of current knowledge, doesn't mean they made no sense at the time.

    There was an element of pure hatred at the core of Naziism, and people differ on the senselessness of hatred, so that's something you could hang your 'senseless' hat on.

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    by dinotrac on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 08:01:05 AM PST

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    •  Those are good points. (2+ / 0-)
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      Hatred, particularly baseless hatred, does strike me as senseless -- but as you say, there can be solidly practical reasons for doing evil things.

    •  This reminds me that pogroms. etc. against Jews (1+ / 0-)
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      were often initiated by the rich & powerful who had to borrow money to sustain their extravagant lifestyles & endless wars to maintain power.

      Best way to permanently erase a debt is to kill or exile the debt holders - Jews were the only people in European christian society allowed to loan money with interest, whence they had money to lend.

      Forcing people into vulnerable situations sounds a lot like our current conservative wing-nut philosophy. As does scape-goating people who are different, educated & talented.

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 03:45:54 PM PST

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