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  •  I am quite experienced in combat. (4+ / 0-)

    What you seem to not understand is that American private gun owners are equivalent to the militaries of the top 20 militaries in the world, including of course, the US, China and Russia.

    Our military is predominantly made up of the children of these same Americans. The "gun culture" sends their children to protect our freedoms (however disabused they are in their efforts). You misapprehend the situation if you believe the majority of the military will disarm their communities.

    That is a dangerous misapprehension. Again, I make no threats. I dont seek to lead a revolution. I am stating facts as I see them.

    Gun confiscation is the Rubicon for a large group of Americans. Those proposing any such idea are treading on exceptionally dangerous ground - possibly being unaware of doing so. I want you to be aware.

    •  nobody is going to confiscate guns (3+ / 0-)

      that just sounds unreal.  We need a rifle (I hate to use the word gun because we would never use a pistol to fight the government, we would use a rifle) to protect us from our government.  Why couldn't we just get fed up with our government leaders and vote them out?

      80 % of Success is Just Showing Up! CLIMATE CHANGE: The era of procrastination, half-measures & delays is coming to an end; In its place we are entering a period of consequences!

      by Churchill on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 08:47:22 AM PST

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      •  voting is just SO much work! (3+ / 0-)

        You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

        by Cartoon Peril on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 08:55:32 AM PST

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      •  Tell me who to vote for... (1+ / 0-)
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        who will restore our liberties as defined under the Constitution? I will happily do so. Unfortunately, the oligarchs who control BOTH major parties and 90% of the media do not find that our liberal political philosophy found in the Constitution serves their end to reduce us to serfdom.

        Since they DO control the electoral process and the media, I do not want them to also have a monopoly on force.

        Consider that Congress is uniformly despised yet incumbents have a reelection rate of over 90%. The electoral process effects liberty? Not.

    •  as a combat vet would you worry about civilians (1+ / 0-)
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      armed with handguns? Rifle, of course, but handguns?
      I have a rifle, and my family has owned rifles and shotguns for as far as I can trace because, before The War Between the States.  I too know about a civil war because 660,000 Americans dies in one of our many American Civil Wars.

      80 % of Success is Just Showing Up! CLIMATE CHANGE: The era of procrastination, half-measures & delays is coming to an end; In its place we are entering a period of consequences!

      by Churchill on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 08:53:26 AM PST

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      •  I am much more concerned... (3+ / 0-)
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        by the threat of mass murder/genocide perpetrated by a tyrannical government with a monopoly on the use of arms than I am by a free citizenry in which law abiding citizens are armed with ANY weapon.

        Any knowledge of 20th century history will affirm this concern.

        •  you, sir, are absolutely 100 % correct, (0+ / 0-)

          but do you think we are approaching that level? And what good would a armed militia do against Cobra gunships, or Apache gunships?

          80 % of Success is Just Showing Up! CLIMATE CHANGE: The era of procrastination, half-measures & delays is coming to an end; In its place we are entering a period of consequences!

          by Churchill on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 10:21:39 AM PST

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          •  See Vietnam or Afghanistan... (1+ / 0-)
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            for your answer to that. I also don't believe our military will fire upon American citizens who are defending themselves against an oppressive government. Most members of our military come from the same "stock" as the gun owners and believe deeply in their oath to defend the Constitution.

            •  Please see, indeed (1+ / 0-)
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              What is the American version of the Viet Cong and their patron state, North Vietnam?  Who are the American Taliban?  America has NOTHING like that around which to organize an effective insurgency against the most powerful military the earth has ever seen.  "Same stock?"  What does that even begin to mean in America? Nonsense.

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