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  •  Apples to Oranges - Again (2+ / 0-)
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    murrayewv, lyvwyr101

    I get it, however I'd be willing to wager Norwegians are intelligent, and responsible enought to NOT leave loaded handguns lying around the house where their children can get hold of them-- unlike numerous ignorant people in our nation.

    In addition, they're not dumb enough to succumb to The Fear; i.e. the notion in our nation there's hundreds of criminals running up and down their streets at all hours of the day and night-- and as the pathetic shill testified in congress last week "mothers protecting their babies must have Bushmaster rifles".

    Let's not get off track here. As I've been pointing out for some time, our nation is suffering from a perfect F'd up storm due to decades of stupid, failed policies.

    I bring up gun policy in Japan simply because it defuses the nonsensical notion/NRA talking point that strict gun regulations "don't work".

    "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

    by Superpole on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:55:49 PM PST

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    •  The real difference, I would bet, is that (2+ / 0-)
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      a2nite, Superpole

      Norwegian society is not so stratified as ours, and that cultural values to not support senseless violence.

      Most gun crimes are exactly that: crimes that happen with guns.  It's easier to rob somebody if you're pointing a gun in their face.  It's also  easier to have things go real bad wrong if the perpetrator of the crime is holding a gun.

      Ditto for violent assaults, and even intentional murders.

      I must have missed the testimony about mothers protecting their babies with Bushmasters.

      I'll bet you made that up, didn't you?

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:24:55 PM PST

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      •  No, some conservative female whackjob says (0+ / 0-)

        women feel more confident protecting their screaming babies if they have a SCARY-LOOKING gun.

        She kind of reminded me of $arah Palin.

        *There are two sides to every horseshit.* Kos

        by glorificus on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 05:53:27 PM PST

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      •  LOL, Nope, It's Real (1+ / 0-)
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        dinotrac
        I'll bet you made that up, didn't you?
        Check the transcript from the hearing-- it's real.

        There's no way this absurdity/insanity can be contrived; it's proof of just how unhinged our nation is.

        "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

        by Superpole on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 03:35:25 AM PST

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        •  Somebody else pointed that out. (1+ / 0-)
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          Superpole

          Sigh.

          And here I always thought that the typical self-defense situation took place at a range that

          a) doesn't quite require the power of an AR-15, and
          b) benefitted from something that was easier to handle and harder for the threat to grab, or
          c) didn't require much in the way of aim -- like a shotgun.

          There is an argument to be made that the real purpose of using a gun in self-defense is that you want to scare the assailant away, not shoot him, but, honestly, the business end of any gun's barrel is pretty scary.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:25:29 AM PST

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          •  Agreed... (1+ / 0-)
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            but, honestly, the business end of any gun's barrel is pretty scary.
            Millions have succumbed to The Fear. it's not enough to simply scare a criminal off your doorstep or out of your backyard-- you must kill him deader than hell... otherwise he may return later with more firepower than you.. or maybe with 3-4 of his thug friends.. and they will "get you".

            "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

            by Superpole on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 03:17:11 PM PST

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    •  Hi Superpole-how you doin'? (0+ / 0-)

      Absolutely correct--in my opinion.

      There may be a lot of guns in Norway and a low number of gun-deaths---but here in the US we have a lot of guns and a very high number of gun-deaths.

      The difference IS the mentality---we've had a steady relentless dose of stupid---on a daily basis---followed by a dash of fear----over hordes of criminals and---frankly---brown skinned people rampaging thru our streets.

      Ludicrous and horrific---all at the same time.

      The NRA played the fear-card----to an incredible degree of success for them-- and complete and utter failure---for this country.

      They've played on racial prejudice---regional biases---class differences---political differences---religious differences---you name it---they've expolited every bias and prejudice there is in this country---and made money hand over fist doing it.

      They have literally worked to destroy this country----for the sake of  a profit----and they have engaged in a shameless expolitation of the second amendment for political clout.

      What a price we pay for the sake of a profit margin.

      Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

      by lyvwyr101 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:59:03 AM PST

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