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  •  Not by American standards. (1+ / 0-)
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    Very many people in Norway own guns,
    We have the most privately owned guns per capita of any nation in the world, by a fairly wide margin.
    •  If you do the math, you will find that the (0+ / 0-)

      shooting death per gun ratio in Norway is about ten times lower than it is in the United States.

      You will also find that Norway, despite having roughly 40% as many guns per capita as the US, has a homicide by firearm rate that is 35% that of the US, has a homicide by firearm rate that is only 1% of that in the US.

      In fact, even though their firearm ownership per capita is 52 times higher than the Japanese, their homicide by firearm rate is barely twice the rate in Japan.

      By contrast, Brazil has 9% as many guns per capita as the US, but 5 times the homicide by firearm rate.

      It's not enough to just tote up the guns.  The number of guns is important, but it's not sufficient to explain the propensity of Americans to shoot each other down.

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      by dinotrac on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:41:44 AM PST

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      •  LOL, homicides per firearm. (0+ / 0-)

        Could you come up with a more meaningless statistic?

        •  LOL, it's your statistic. (0+ / 0-)

          Your argument was that plentiful guns lead to plentiful killings.

          That, my friend, is a killings per firearm argument.

          That makes the statistic yours, not mine.  I just went and gathered a few examples.   I agree, by the way, that it's essentially meaningless, and ripe for cherry-picking.

          By the way, I also generated a couple of typos in the course of editing badly.  The sentence should have read:

          You will also find that Norway, despite having roughly 35% as many guns per capita as  the US, has a homicide by firearm rate that is only 1% of that in the US.

          The bottom line is that guns alone don't explain the problem.  The ready availability of guns certainly must amplify the problem, but there's more going on than that.

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          by dinotrac on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 11:49:28 AM PST

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