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  •  Thanks, Kovie (30+ / 0-)

    Like it or not, we have to hold everyone accountable, including our own party leaders.  If we can't follow the rules, how can we expect others to do the same.

    Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

    by Betty Pinson on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:53:54 PM PST

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    •  Change "including" to "Especially" (3+ / 0-)

      and You'll have my view.  Well said.

      You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

      by Johnny Q on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:58:24 PM PST

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    •  I"m damn tired of always having to vote for....... (7+ / 0-)

      .......the lessor of two evils.  More and more I'm able to see the advantages of the parliamentary system such as most other first world democracies have.  Our system leaves huge numbers of it's population disenfranchised.  Americans are limited to voting either center, center-right or far right.  Those who want to vote for a true liberal are usually left in the cold.

      •  Canada has essentially the same system we do (2+ / 0-)
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        Creosote, kovie

        They've got Center-Right,  Center-Left, and an actual Left (not far Left) party that's now in second place.

        If we stopped being distracted by Presidential races and started reviewing our own history, we'd remember that the US once elected significant numbers of Progressives to the Congress, and that doing so pushed the Democratic Party to stop taking workers for granted and to realize that keeping the coalition together was going to require legislation that truly put the common people first.

        The New Deal wouldn't have happened without an inside-outside multi-Party strategy.

        "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

        by JesseCW on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 03:42:08 AM PST

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        •  We've become too deeply conservative (1+ / 0-)
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          for that to be imaginable any time soon, as I see it. And not just ideologically conservative, but personally conservative, in terms of not being open to new ideas and ways of looking at and doing things. We may like policies X, Y and Z, but still vote for the party that wants to destroy these policies, because it's "our" party, and the other party is evil or socialist or for gay sex abortion on demand for babies or something. I.e. we've become stupid and childish and incapable of mature behavior, in our personal as much as in our political lives.

          Think of how many people you know, beyond your circle of thoughtful, mature, sophisticated liberal and leftie friends, who are simply too functionally dumb for words, who still wonder about Obama's nationality or religion, or believe we need to cut spending now (but don't you dare touch Medicare!), or would support a war with Iran with the right PR campaign, etc. How do we form a viable progressive party, or elect enough progressives to control our party, with such a useless electorate? Perhaps it's possible, but from a populist (read: dumbed down) perspective, not an idea-based one.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:38:03 AM PST

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          •  About a third of the population is extreme (1+ / 0-)
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            It's about 1/5th to 1/3rd in just about every country on Earth.

            We don't need the third of our population who think the problem with Obama is that he's a socioislamofasnazi.

            We need the disaffected 40% who don't vote.  And they lean way left on issue after issue.

            We do it the way we did it before.  We do it the way Canada did it.  We start by taking on "New Democrats" in D+15 or more state assembly districts in places like California and Washington and Vermont.

            We do it because we can't crack the corrupt state party machines, anymore than we could in the 1890's or the 1930's.  But we can scare the bastards at least a little to the left.

            And we can do it without risking a Republican in the White House, if we're smart about it.

            "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

            by JesseCW on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 05:53:50 AM PST

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            •  We need a megaphone. A place where our kind of (1+ / 0-)
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              media and ideas are disseminated that exists outside of the current corporate structure.

              Current TV could have been a nice deal, but they ran it like a corporation.

              A new indymedia would be good now.

              Putting people in office does nothing to stop the entrapment of the public's mind by the corporate media. It feeds that beast if we play by today's rules.

              If there were a megaphone to go along with that political movement, a place outside of that corporate media box and outside of their profit streams, then we'd be getting somewhere.

              Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

              by k9disc on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 06:38:08 AM PST

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