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  •  Yeah, hey think of the Donner Party. (4+ / 0-)
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    Seriously, roots can be very nourishing. Twigs maybe not so much though willow will help the aches and pains.

    Force is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one. Marx

    by Marihilda on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 02:35:22 PM PST

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    •  The Donner party (0+ / 0-)

      Were idiots.  Coming out unprepared in the winter was the height of buffoonery.  That part of the state is even now a virtual smorgasbord for those with even basic hunting skills in the winter.

      I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

      by trumpeter on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 04:37:53 PM PST

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      •  It wasn't so much (1+ / 0-)
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        the "party" but rather, the wagon master (and guide ) who directed the party toward a short cut that would take weeks off their travels.  The short cut, however, was only available in  non-winter conditions.  An early snowstorm sealed the fate of a group of people that had few, if any, survival skills.

        "If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them. Isaac Asimov (8.25 / -5.64}

        by carver on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 04:54:57 PM PST

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    •  With some exception, (1+ / 0-)
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      the energy involved in the digestion of roots requires more calories than what is derived - or the gain doesn't outweigh the effort of gathering.  The development of the human brain is the result of a complexity of factors, however, without the  highly compact fuel source of meat, the brain's development and maintenance  would not be possible  Amplifying  the benefits of meat eating was the control of fire and the cooking of meat  which increased the digestibility.  Cooking also allowed many roots (and other vegetative foods) to be more digestible, which in turn, greatly increases the calories available.
      In dire straights, and I was on the edge of terminal starvation, the cultural and religion prohibitions on cannibalism would be academic.... best debated on a full stomach.

      "If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them. Isaac Asimov (8.25 / -5.64}

      by carver on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 04:40:21 PM PST

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