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  •  With all the accidental shootings (4+ / 0-)

    while cleaning...I'm beginning to wonder if all the bluster is to really disguise the fact that these gun manufacturers can't seem to make a reliable gun.

    How does the Republican Congress sit down with all the butthurt over taxing the wealthy?

    by athenap on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 08:42:44 AM PST

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    •  The gun is way more reliable than the people. (7+ / 0-)

      The gun will reliably shoot.  People will reliably fuck up.  

      Maybe we should limit 1 bullet to a chamber, because there are so many accidental shootings.  That way you would have to pull the trigger a bunch of times and never know when it will actually shoot.  

      Get the gun reliability more in line with the human reliability.

      guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

      by 88kathy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 08:49:02 AM PST

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      •  Bullet? Round? Chamber? (1+ / 0-)
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        Right off hand, I can't think of a single common firearm that allows more than one round, let alone more than one bullet, in the chamber at a time. It just doesn't make sense - how could two rounds be in the chamber at the same time, they wouldn't fit.

        Obviously, some guns (most commonly, revolvers) have multiple chambers, but each can only hold one instance of the round for which it was designed.

        I suppose (but have not checked) that maybe one could cram three .22LR rounds into a chamber designed for a .50 BMG round :) But it wouldn't work very well and would likely be pretty safe since even if the firing pin managed to result in all three firing at the same time (.22LR rounds are rimfires so maybe some weird arrangement could result in this), the bullets would likely leave the barrel at a non-lethal velocity due to interference and lack of a gas seal in the barrel way over sized for their caliber.

        •  I am thinking about the old timey Russian Roulette (0+ / 0-)

          more or less joking around, what if guns were as unreliable as people.  People are not consistently aware they have a gun in their pocket.  See 'accidents' above.

          What if guns didn't consistently go off.  What if you never knew when you pulled the trigger if it would fire or not.

          People obviously have so many accidents they have no idea.  They accidentally shoot things all the time.  What if the gun was inconsistent.  

          People wouldn't make the mistake of knowing.  They would have to pay attention to get the gun to go off.  Or maybe it would discharge the first time they pulled the trigger. Scare the hell out of them.

          guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

          by 88kathy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 08:26:08 PM PST

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    •  While these people (4+ / 0-)
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      VA Breeze, Bisbonian, Catsmeat, Blissing

      are diligent cleaners of their weapons it seems they never learned what the first step in cleaning must be - empty the gun.

      The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy... the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

      by lcbo on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:05:25 AM PST

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    •  more likely (5+ / 0-)

      most of these 'cleaning' accidents are people trying to show off- quick draws,spinning the gun on trigger finger,that kind of dumb.

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