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  •  Something Hemenway doesn't mention (6+ / 0-)
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    nominalize, richardak, myboo, ColoTim, gof, mrkvica

    This is a slightly edited part of my comment from another diary about this debunked study:

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    But I have not as yet seen anyone ask questions about the timing of Kleck's survey. Was there anything going on in society prior to, or at the time, of Kleck's survey that may have caused survey respondents to want to justify gun ownership by fabricating DGU incidents; thereby biasing Kleck's estimates high?

    Let's take a look at Kleck's survey. He states in his Method section:

       Interviewing was carried out from February through April of 1993.
    Hmmm...let's think back at highly-publicized events of that era that might cause gun owners to worry about the government taking their guns, and might spur them to exaggerate or fabricate incidents to justify gun ownership (such as DGU).

    There was Ruby Ridge, of course, in August 1992, in which Federal agents shot and killed Randy Weaver's wife and child over Weaver's pending illegal weapons charge.  

    That was certainly highly publicized.  And it happened only six months before Kleck's survey.

    And then there the introduction in February 1993 of the reviled (by anti-gun control folks) Brady Bill by Sen. Schumer, shortly after Bill Clinton (who had campaigned in part on gun control) was inaugurated as President. That happened during Kleck's survey.

    Anything else going on at that time, one wonders?

    Hey!  What about the Waco siege?  Didn't that happen around that time? Wasn't that highly publicized? It also was about illegal weapons charges by the ATF. And that certainly didn't turn out well for those who might feel the need to arm themselves against a tyrannical government, eh?

    Let's check: Waco siege: February 28, 1993 to April 19, 1993.  

    Huh. February through April of 1993.  Where have I heard those dates before?

       Interviewing was carried out from February through April of 1993.
    Why thank you, professor Kleck.  That's right.  

    Now that you mention it, I wonder why you didn't bother to address that little factor in your paper?  

    In a way, Kleck's survey could be viewed as similar to a survey taken during a flood of whether people think flood insurance is a good idea.

    I don't think any reasonable, objective person should view Kleck's 1993 survey as accurate.  Even ignoring its glaring statistical flaws and propensity for overestimating rates of DGU that have been clearly and repeatedly described by other researchers, it was taken during a veritable maelstrom of heightened sensitivity about guns, gun ownership, and government aggression against individuals. And I'm not exaggerating: that maelstrom led directly to the rise of the militia movement and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

    •  Good pick-up (0+ / 0-)

      That is a good point you make about kleck's survey and co-incidental national news events regarding guns.

      "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

      by Hugh Jim Bissell on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:47:13 AM PST

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