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View Diary: To the self-described "patriots" of 2013: My friends, this is NOT what tyranny looks like (177 comments)

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  •  As long as the Patriot Act stands, it is. (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, elwior

    The fundamental definition of a police state is they have absolute power over the people and there is no leagal recourse.

    The Patriot Act says that if a state official declares you to be a terrorist, you can be locked up for the rest of your life without any possibility of trial. This is real, the 4th amendment is gone.

    These abuses do not have to be wide spread for the police state description to be accurate.

    •  You're wrong. (4+ / 0-)

      http://www.nytimes.com/...

      The relevant passage ...

      Nor did the Bush administration rely on the Patriot Act for its lawless "enemy combatant" doctrine, the basis for holding American citizens suspected of terrorism indefinitely, without access to family members or lawyers. And the administration now claims that the C.I.A. has the right to secretly transfer suspected terrorists to foreign countries for interrogation. Critics of the process, known as rendition, say it is being used to subject these suspects to torture. The authority for rendition comes not from the Patriot Act, but from a classified directive that President Bush signed shortly after 9/11.
      Emphasis mine.

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