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  •  Yeah, I know (6+ / 0-)

    Even the most conservative Democrats have better voting records than the most liberal Republicans these days.  I'm not happy they've all been replaced by extreme rightwing Republicans (save Lieberman), but at the same time, I really don't miss them personally.  That's all I was saying.

    Same goes for 2004 retirees John Breaux and Zell Miller.  Don't particularly miss them either, despite them being replaced by Vitter and Isakson.

    •  Miller was a fake Democrat (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      There was a "D" after his name, but ideologically he was in the middle of the GOP caucus. We literally lost nothing when Isakson won--he probably wouldn't have voted for Democratic control in 2006 if he'd stayed another term.

      •  I'd still take him over Atur davis (3+ / 0-)
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        KingofSpades, JGibson, Stephen Wolf

        he atleast helped us have brief conrol of the senate, and did campaign for Max Cleland in 2002.

        In fact, the occasional victory for the GOP cannot hide the fact that this country is fast heading into another era, not of two-party democracy, but a party-and-a-half system. And the GOP is the half a party- Larry Sabato

        by lordpet8 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:33:56 PM PST

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      •  Zell Miller (2+ / 0-)
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        is one of those old Dixiecrats that stayed in the Democratic party. Unfortunately he started drinking that hard right kool-aid. I wonder if Roy Barnes could had nominated someone who was also strong to hold that seat, and wouldn't be a thron in the side.

        Moderate Progressive, Born in Cairo, Raised in NY-9 (Clarke), Living in NJ-10 (Payne Jr).

        by BKGyptian89 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:46:56 PM PST

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        •  Miller was weird though (2+ / 0-)
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          Stephen Wolf, MichaelNY

          In that he actually governed as a fairly progressive governor. While he had back in the '60s (!) been a Dixiecrat-style conservative Democrat, by the '90s he seemed like a pretty mainstream centrist Southern Democrat. After he got to the Senate though, he abruptly tacked sharply right. By the end of his tenure he was actually attending Republican Caucus meetings, which means that had he still been in the Senate post-2004, he'd probably have officially caucused with them.

        •  Miller was actually a moderate-to-liberal (1+ / 0-)
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          MichaelNY

          dem for most of his career (think of someone like Dale Bumpers). It wasn't until around 2000ish that his views started to go off the deep end.

          RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

          by demographicarmageddon on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:55:57 PM PST

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    •  Breaux was somewhat constructive (1+ / 0-)
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      Christopher Walker

      I think he was missed.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:28:02 PM PST

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