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  •  I'm not sure but (3+ / 0-)
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    I think a few great houses may have already installed indoor privvies by then.  I know a few had them by the Elizabethan age.  They were similar to outhouses only your waste went through a pipe into the basement.

    Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one.--Sam Rayburn

    by Ice Blue on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 03:47:40 PM PST

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    •  John Harington (4+ / 0-)

      invented the first flush toilet a century later.

      It's about time I changed my signature.

      by Khun David on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 04:27:02 PM PST

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      •  and then we got the Lord of the Privy...n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        •  LOL (3+ / 0-)
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          Privy just meant private or personal. So the Lord Privy Seal originally guarded the Great Seal of England.

          Senior UK politicians - mostly ministers, but also judges and others are appointed to the Privy Council for various functions to "advise" the monarch.  They use the title "Right Honourable" to indicate their membership. That by the way is one of the formal ways they are referred to in the House of Commons but traditionally MPs who have or currently serve in the armed forces are called "gallant" and lawyers "learned".  So somebody could be the "Right Honourable, gallant and learned member for ...."

          "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

          by Lib Dem FoP on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 10:57:42 PM PST

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          •  Isn't that what they say in Parliment right.... (0+ / 0-)

            before they accuse someone of a henious offence? The PM will reply to the opposition leader and say: 'The Right Honorable Gentleman (or Lady) is a tax dodger..." It's the Parilmentary equivalent of the American southern 'bless her heart'...

    •  Garderobes (6+ / 0-)

      Every large building like a castle or manor house had a garderobe - basically a room with a toilet seat above a long drop to a cesspit or midden.

      The ammonia that was given off was believed to discourage insects so clothing was stored alongside to rid it of the fleas and other nasties. The word morphed into "wardrobe" and I am not sure if this company is entirely au fait of its derivation.

      "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

      by Lib Dem FoP on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 10:45:30 PM PST

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      •  The poet Robert Graves wrote (0+ / 0-)

        of a childhood visit with some German relatives who were minor nobility.  One of his cousins took him on a tour of their old castle.  When they came upon an isolated corner, there was a hole.  The cousin told him a story of an old lord of the manor who feared his enemies so he had an escape tunnel dug that went all the way down to the river nearly a mile away.  Go on, he said.  Why don't you try it?  Graves thought it looked like an old loo, so he declined.

        Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one.--Sam Rayburn

        by Ice Blue on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:01:12 PM PST

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