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  •  I think your second scenario more likely. Only (4+ / 0-)

    someone with the King's authorization would dare murder a king.  Henry VI for example was likely killed by Richard with Edward IV's consent.  Also, the story is that Edward Lancaster, Henry VI's son, was murdered by Edward, Gloucester, and Clarence after the Battle of Tewkesbury, and if he had been taken alive, I don't see how anyone else would have dared touch him.

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 05:19:28 PM PST

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    •  I think that is a good point (5+ / 0-)

      but I can also see a scenario such as Becket ("Will no one rid me of this meddling priest") in which Richard muses to Buckingham about the need for the boys to die which Buckingham then follows up on.

      I'm not at all convinced that is how it happens but I can't rule it out either. Buckingham was essentially second in power to Richard at the time. He may have felt he was empowered to do it.

      "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

      by Andrew C White on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 05:23:48 PM PST

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    •  No way (2+ / 0-)
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      citylights, Cartoon Peril

      would Richard "murder" anyone without Edward's consent and command.  My guess is Edward of Lancaster was killed on the battlefield, much as Richard III would himself be, years later - and that Edward also arranged for Henry VI to be quietly offed.  After all, he'd just been deposed - he wasn't going to risk it happening again.

      •  Richard may have killed Henry VI (1+ / 0-)
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        At Edward IV's order. It was done while Henry was in the Tower of London after Edward won back the throne.

        Anne Neville's first husband, Eduard of Lancaster, Henry VI's son, was probably killed by the Duke of Clarence, brother to both Edward and Richard.

        Eduard of Lancaster, Le Fleur d'Anjou, is said to have claimed sanctuary in Tewkesbury Abbey and was dragged out by victorious Yorkists troops and slain.

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