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    •  And with Rove financing the Tea Party (20+ / 0-)

      2012 effort, he's the Death Star.

      Or the Star of Death.

      Or the Closet With Two Legs.

      Or whatever.

      I can't imagine why these guys would trust him. With anything. Syphoning money out of campaigns is his great gift -- what else?

      "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

      by bontemps2012 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 05:20:21 AM PST

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      •  I love, love, love that Rove is out there (22+ / 0-)

        collecting more money from these fools. In the inimitable words of GWB, ". . . fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

        Hah! Little did he know just how many times Karl Rove could fool them all.

        The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain, is floating in mid-air, until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life. Jane Addams

        by Alice Olson on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:26:11 AM PST

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      •  Question ---- (8+ / 0-)

        Does this mean Rove will be taking on the financiers of the Tea Party, like the Kochs, etc.? Or does this mean that those financiers will stop dumping money into the Tea Party and put their money behind Rove?

        We can joke about the Baggers vs Rove, but the real issues, as always, is money. And the people providing it...

        "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

        by azureblue on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:20:38 AM PST

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        •  Rove was anti-Tea in two races, but (4+ / 0-)

          otherwise was pro-Tea everywhere.

          His ads were terrible.

          If he ends up fighting the Koch's John Birch Society candidates, for 2014, then good for us.

          The Birchers have 150 seats in the House. they are anything but a populist "tea party."

          "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

          by bontemps2012 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:00:51 AM PST

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          •  Getting to the nitty gritty (4+ / 0-)

            That's what this reads like, to me. Rove is setting himself up to battle the Koch bros, etc. It could become a battle of two sets of deep pockets throwing a lot of money at each other, for a battle of ideology of the GOP. The Baggers will not back down, and I am sure this will only make them dig in deeper, especially if the Kochs keep the money flowing. The bottom line is this could ruin the conservative billionaires, if they keep putting their money into this battle. If they stop putting money into the Baggers, then this will serve to only make the Baggers angrier, and angry at the people they thought were supporting their cause. It may result a GOP party split, the Baggers and their backers forming a new party. This makes sense, in that the backers of the Baggers realize they will lose a lot of money in a battle for the GOP, so better to spend that money forming a new political party.

            My take is Rove has started a battle that will only end in a Pyrrhic victory, and maybe a split in the GOP. Somebody is going to lose and get betrayed, big time..

            "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

            by azureblue on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:26:06 AM PST

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            •  Tea Party History from my perspective (5+ / 0-)

              Having observed the nasty birth of the Tea Party frame by frame, I can say that you'all have NOT CONNECTED the dots on Karl Rove's latest move. Here is my take...

              (a) The Democratic Town Halls conducted after the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was passed and signed into law were invaded and disrupted by a number of paid and misinformed senior citizens who were intent on repeal of ACA nicknamed "Obamacare". This was the time when Chuck Grassley was marketing the Republican mantra that "Obamacare will pull the plug on Grandma"! The disruptors at these Townhalls were financed by the Medical Insurance Industry lobby who channeled money into Dick Armey's Freedom Works as part of an onging fight against the ACA. Later on Dick Armey received support from a billionaire plutocratic cabal to mold the rag tag mob of anti-Obama protestors into the Tea Party in a move to capture an expand the growing right wing opposition to Obamacare.

              (b) Dick Armey who had a personal axe to grind against some House Republicans from his days as majority leader organized Tea Party challenges to a number of long serving House Republicans around the country for the 2010 election. IMHO it was Armey's depth of political experience  that directed sucessful campaigns for many Tea Party Candidates.

              (c) In the aftermath of the 2012 election an "internal dispute" breaks out at Freedom Works and Dick Armey resigns. However prior to Armey's resignation from Freedom Works, Karl Rove received an avalanche of negative publicity over the almost 100% failure rate of Rove's Cross Roads backed Senatorial candidates in the 2012 election. But Rove's huge political war chest was still pretty much intact after the election.

              (d) As a lobbist Rove has always been tied to business interests and American business has grown weary of the Tea Party faction obstructionists in the House. They also recognize that if the nation is to experience a new ecoomic boom that these Tea Party obstructionists must be moved out of the way, and the only way to do it is at the ballot box. Thus I believe that Wall Street called Karl Rove and gave him the green light to clean out the obstructionist House members. Dick Armey is out of the way so the mantle of the the prime political mastermind lobbyist for American capitalists has now fallen on Karl Rove. Dots connected.......

              •  In 1984 the Koch's main operation (2+ / 0-)
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                started throwing large sums to Birchers to win "safe" GOP seats.

                That 's their club, the John Birch Society. They also use JBS as their strongest link to the Mormons and to other rightist organizations.

                They expanded Far Right seats from 1984 through 2000 and then got a large expansion in 2010. These are clearly Birchers, not a "tea party."

                At present, based on voting patterns, there are 150 Birchers in the House.

                Adopting the "Tea Party" tag occurred in 2009 shortly after the Obama inauguration. The original populist teabaggers were replaced with Freedom Watch -- another Koch front operation.

                (Business GOP ??? They number a mere 84 seats in the House. Good to swell a progress, adequate to wear the Orange of Boehn. Otherwise, they're non-practicing lawyers.)

                "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

                by bontemps2012 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:02:24 PM PST

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                •  Great comment (2+ / 0-)
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                  "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement" ~ Will Rogers

                  by Lefty Coaster on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:31:41 PM PST

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                  •  Thank you. (0+ / 0-)

                    We've been working on graphics to display the expansion of their hold on GOP House seats.

                    Rural seats, particularly, are vulnerable to big money campaigns. These xssholes get their candidates, train them, support them for years, and finance primary campaign after primary campaign.

                    John Kline in MN-02 is an example. He's a far right Texan. Bircher. Disguises his voting record with his congressional mailers and web site.

                    Amazing how many "safe" GOP seats have foreign occupants with military/CIA backgrounds.

                    "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

                    by bontemps2012 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:20:27 AM PST

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        •  None of the above (3+ / 0-)
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          It means Rove has recognized another income stream for himself. I can't imagine he'll stop "helping" the tea party Birchers and the Koch financial powerhouse.

          •  There's a jbs.org web site. (3+ / 0-)

            Sounds like the talking points of every Koch-financed House race.

            They were Birch Society freaks from 1959 to 1999 and 2000 to 2013. It ainta gonna change.

            They are paranoids. They never learn a damn thing. And paranoids among the billionaires are throwing huge amounts of money to their crazed political schemes.

            "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

            by bontemps2012 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:09:05 PM PST

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