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  •  So slavery to drugs = freedom? (2+ / 0-)
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    So, you're ok with thousands more dying or having their lives ruined in pursuit of your drug utopia ? I file them right next to the libertarians who want no laws and no police.

    Making a drug legal will automatically make it much more widely available, and it's not like we don't have enough problems with alcoholics and people dying from cigarettes.
    The 'it's their choice' argument is a vicious lie. There is a direct biological pathway to addiction. Plenty of rich, politically powerful people get addicted. No sociology needed. Some people can't make that choice, and consigning them to hell so you can have your 'freedom',  is a worse Darwinian reasoning than anything the Tea Party ever dreamed up.

    •  Our War On Drugs, or more exactly our continued (12+ / 0-)

      demand for drugs in the face of near universal Prohibition has already killed thousands and ruined millions of lives.

      In Mexico, as the diarist properly notes.

      When do we take responsibility for the massive harm we have wrought on our neighbors with our unworkable drug laws?

      “Perhaps the most 'spiritual' thing any of us can do is simply to look through our own eyes, see with eyes of wholeness, and act with integrity and kindness.” Jon Kabat-Zinn

      by DaNang65 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:58:48 PM PST

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    •  The drug war isn't working. (19+ / 0-)

      Anyone who wants to take a given drug can find it easily enough. People who don't take drugs generally don't want to take drugs, and wouldn't if drugs were legal.

      Problems like meth are because drugs are illegal. If speed were legal, people would take tablets of amphetamine made by pharmaceutical companies, rather than some poison cooked up by an idiot in their kitchen. Meth became popular because the DEA cracked down on the diversion of "diet pills" to the black market.

      Prohibition didn't stop the drinking. Yes, alcoholism is a problem, but liquor dealers don't shoot it out on the street over their sales area. Drunks don't have to break into houses to support a habit that costs hundreds of dollars a day. Legalization allows control. Prohibition gives money to organized crime.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:25:27 AM PST

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      •  Legalization not only allows control (1+ / 0-)
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        It also makes lots of information available so people can know the signs of getting carried away.

        Too many go into using drugs without knowing how to do them safely. Having them be legal makes it easier to figure it out.

        Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:35:09 PM PST

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    •  Consigning them to hell? (1+ / 0-)
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      So, what you are saying is that we have to try to force people to stay straight because a few have a problem with drugs? If they get addicted, then they need to feel free to seek help.

      Drugs being illegal just stops them from getting full information about each drug and what it does, and how to know they need help and where to get it.

      Fully informed people are less likely to become addicted. Let them see what can happen, and they will be more careful. It takes time and persistence to become addicted. People don't seem to realize that.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:33:24 PM PST

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