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  •  the survivalist (8+ / 0-)

    post-apocalypse, Mad Max wing of the right has taken over, via the Tea Party, many other groups.  NRA is one.

    Justice For Will Will spent his brief, courageous life fighting for the rights we all take for granted. Please share his story to support the fight!

    by KibbutzAmiad on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:58:22 AM PST

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    •  GOP is another nt (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Disaster (9+ / 0-)

      Lord of the Flies is often treated as if it fact rather than fiction, that civilization is a veneer, and once you scratch it, you reveal a beast. But disasters tend to reveal the best in us. You can cherry-pick people who behave badly in a disaster, but they aren't representative.

      Some people might point to the Stanford Prison Experiment, where subjects played roles as guards and prisoners, but this wasn't stripping away civilization, this was creating an artificial civilization with perverse incentives. It created unchecked power.

      When disaster strikes, we really are "all in this together". In the Stanford Prison Experiment, it was the guards vs. the prisoners, and the guards had all the power.

      Margaret Thatcher once said "There's no such thing as society." She couldn't have been more wrong. People pull together in disasters. The evidence is that we don't revert to Mad Max. The Lord of the Flies people might say "Well, if the disaster is big enough, then we will have a Mad Max world." It seems doubtful based on the evidence, but even so, the best tools in a disaster might be a shovel, a wheelbarrow and sandbags.

      The wolfpack eats venison. The lone wolf eats mice.

      by A Citizen on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:33:35 AM PST

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      •  those who believe (5+ / 0-)

        that only an angry God and the threat of damnation keeps us in line tend to reject that and assume we will all act as rabid lone wolves.  It's a telling thing about the right, I think.

        Justice For Will Will spent his brief, courageous life fighting for the rights we all take for granted. Please share his story to support the fight!

        by KibbutzAmiad on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:51:46 AM PST

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      •  Another unpublicized survival tool (2+ / 0-)
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        is simple: get to know your neighbors. Because if/when disaster strikes, they're going to be the first people you'll turn to for help.

        And even if the disaster is "big enough", banding together in local groups where everyone knows each other (& can share those resources that are hard to move) will improve the odds of survival far more than accumulating the largest stockpile of firearms. I expect a group of half-a-dozen single mothers with small children are more likely to survive a "Mad Max" apocalypse than one heavily-armed gun nut: the gun nut has to sleep sometime.

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