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  •  "Legal Case for Drone Strikes on Americans" (3+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator, 3goldens, oldhippie

    Isikoff's article says the 16-page memo also states:

    ...the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S...

    ...“The condition that an operational  leader present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on U.S. persons and interests will take place in the immediate future,” the memo states...

     The administration has refused to turn over to Congress or release those memos publicly -- or even publicly confirm their existence...

    Some members of Congress apparently have some questions about this, and other Office of Legal Counsel documents on this subject:  

    Pressure for turning over the Justice Department memos on targeted killings of Americans appears to be building on Capitol Hill amid signs that Brennan will be grilled on the subject at his confirmation hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday.

    On Monday, a bipartisan group of 11 senators -- led by Democrat Ron Wyden of Oregon — wrote  a letter to President Barack Obama asking him to release all Justice Department memos on the subject...

    “It is vitally important ... for Congress and the American public to have a full understanding of how  the executive branch interprets the limits and boundaries of this authority...”

    •  How could you have "senior operational leaders" (1+ / 0-)
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      who have "no active plot"? That would only be possible if Al Qaeda was just not so big a boogieman as we are continually told.  And in which alternate universe would Americans be senior leaders of Al Qaeda? This entire endeavor is fantasy worlds for boys with toys.

    •  The problem is that we have allowed the (3+ / 0-)
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      chloris creator, kurious, oldhippie

      obligations of our agents of government to "provide for the general welfare" to be redefined as "to protect," both the American people and the nation. And the nation, being much larger, naturally takes precedence.  When the security of the nation, a concept that's evolved from the national interest, is cited, then all actions are permitted. How can the nation be challenged or denied.
      The nation is a secular power that vies for importance with any deity man can invent. Our authoritarian friends' harping on "socialism" has led us to forget that the offensive part of the German agenda was the "national" part.  You know, the fatherland, to which all honor and all subservience was owed.
      The nation is a godless concept, even when it claims to be "under God."  That's just lip service. The nation and the rule of law represent an effort to impose tyranny impersonally.  In other words, there is no flesh and blood tyrant whose head can be offed, when his demands go too far. The tyranny of the rule of law, together with its handmaiden, the dollar, is a wondrous invention.

      "In the name of the nation, and of the dollar and of the rule of law, all your sons and daughters shall be sacrificed."

      The separation of church and state does not guarantee and end to tyranny.  The impulse to dominate continues to be lodged in some men's breasts.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:32:36 AM PST

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