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  •  Airstrikes. It doesn't matter if they're drones (2+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator, johnny wurster

    unless you're making a purely emotional argument, imo.

    I see what you did there.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:01:45 AM PST

    •  True. I have wondered about the distinctions (1+ / 0-)
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      which should be made, if any, between drones and airstrikes and snipers (such as the one who was killed) and any other particular killing force.  If these other methods are considered acceptable, then why not drones?  Presumably they risk fewer American lives - at least for now.  That may change when/if they are purchased by other countries/groups.

      If they are being used to kill Americans, then that is depriving them of due process and their Constitutional rights.  On the other hand, if those Americans are living in Pakistan or Yemen and are teaching others how best to blow up other Americans, are they not traitors?  Perhaps the US should revoke their citizenship before pursuing them?  Or am I splitting hairs?

      And apparently, even within the US, you can go to a movie or a shopping mall or your kindergarten class and still be taken out by a bullet - are drones any worse?

      I feel as if I only have questions without answers.  

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      by chloris creator on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:15:39 AM PST

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      •  I think there's this visual of the drones (2+ / 0-)
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        buzzing over a family picnic at low altitude, strafing the people with .50cal rounds from a gatling gun mounted on its nose. People that get killed by today's drones don't hear/see it coming any more than people do getting killed by surface-to-surface weapons or manned airstrikes.

        I see what you did there.

        by GoGoGoEverton on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:17:10 AM PST

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      •  Being denied your constitutional right (0+ / 0-)

        to due process was eliminated when BO signed the NDAA. Hedges, Chomsky and Ellsberg sued and won, the federal judge ruling that clause unconstitutional, but the Obama administration immediately appealed and Hedges & Co. are, I believe, back in court today to start fighting the appeal.

        There appears to be a deliberate and concerted effort to eliminate as many rights as possible, with the least amount of attention.

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