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  •  No, it's exactly the same. (2+ / 0-)
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    aliasalias, SouthernLiberalinMD

    You said

    Al-Awlaki gave up U.S. citizenship when he announced he was at war with us
    The law does not work that way. There are very specific ways that one can either renounce or lose US citizenship. Al-Awlaki neither formally renounced his citizenship, nor did he meet any of the criteria for which citizenship could be revoked.

    Even the State Department admits this.

    [State Department spokeswoman Victoria] Nuland said she asked State Department lawyers whether the government can revoke a person's citizenship based on their affiliation with a foreign terrorist group, and it turned out there's no law on the books authorizing officials to do so. "An American can be stripped of citizenship for committing an act of high treason and being convicted in a court for that. But that was obviously not the case in this case," she said. "Under U.S. law, there are seven criteria under which you can strip somebody of citizenship, and none of those applied in this case."
    From a legal standpoint, his citizenship status was no different than that in SouthernLiberalinMD's example.

    "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

    by Hayate Yagami on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:16:15 PM PST

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    •  except one committed treason (0+ / 0-)

      and the other a traffic violation...sheesh you people will argue the most spurious shit.

      "Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG

      by durrati on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:40:53 PM PST

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      •  He was never officially accused of that. (1+ / 0-)
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        Or of anything, really. His entire case was the executive saying "Based on secret evidence with no judicial review, he's a bad guy and should die."

        "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

        by Hayate Yagami on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:28:27 AM PST

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