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  •  I was thinking that if the UK Parliament passed (4+ / 0-)
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    marriage equality that might push the Scottish Parliament to get it done.

    But from your remarks I guess that won't be the case.  Too bad.

    •  Yeah, I wish that were the case. (2+ / 0-)
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      The three London parties are kind of Spineless in Scotland. They don't have effective leadership, because they send their best and brightest to London, while the SNP sends their washed-up third-rate politicians to London. As a result, the London parties keep getting their butts handed to them on a platter.

      The Labour party lost some of its safest seats to the SNP in the last election. Places where they were winning by 30% ended up going to the SNP by 15%. When they did win, it was just by a hair.

      Getting in a fight with the Catholic Church by fighting for gay marriage might mean that Labour would go the way of the Liberal Democrats in the next election, who no longer have any seats in mainland Scotland.

      So you have a bunch of spineless failures being elected to local seats who just can't stand up to the best and brightest of the SNP, and who aren't equipped with the strength of character or political gamesmanship to do something daring that might piss off their largely catholic base. If they tried, it would just blow up in their faces like everything else they've tried since the Scottish Parliament reconvened in 2000.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:21:49 AM PST

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      •  SNP? (1+ / 0-)
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        Scottish National Parliament?


        Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

        by jayden on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:37:16 PM PST

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        •  Scottish National Party, (1+ / 0-)
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          the largest political party in Scotland. While they're nationalist, they also elected the very first non white and non christian member of the Scottish Parliament, Bashir Ahmad. Humza Yousaf and a bunch of others make up the Asian Scots for Independence, and the SNP coined the term "New Scots" to refer to immigrants.

          It's a very unique strain of pro-immigrant nationalism that could really only exist in an ideologically peculiar place like Scotland.

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:51:11 PM PST

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