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  •  Just a question... no venom behind it (4+ / 0-)
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    I ask this in the spirit of trying to better understand your comment and for my own edification, and with a friendly spirit. Comments can come across so dry and without inflection, so I want you to know I'm not picking a fight, I'm just truly curious.

    Are you saying that being critical of the lobbying effort of the Likudniks is akin to being anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic? Is there any distinction allowed for criticizing the influence of that lobby vs. the "ZOG" accusation in your mind? Is there a way for people to be concerned about the political focus on "supporting Israel" -- I put it in quotes because I think that there are as many differing views as to what constitutes support as there are people having those opinions; the President's view of support and Michele Bachmann's are miles apart -- without it being an accusation of dual-loyalty?

    I agree that making Nazi comparisons should be reserved for, well, Nazis. Period. But I also think that accusations of anti-Semitism should be reserved for actual anti-Semitism. I'm interested in your thoughts if you'd be so kind.

    No, you can't fix stupid. You OUTNUMBER stupid. -Wildthumb, 1/10/2013

    by newinfluence on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 01:21:21 AM PST

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    •  I cannot speak for Bevenro, but I do know that... (0+ / 0-)

      Volleyboy1 was not a fan of AIPAC.  He says so in TT's diary.

      When a person's "impression" of a situation is presented as a fact, for example (in The Troubadour's diary):

      The reason for this disproportionate, obsessive focus on Israel with no regard for U.S. troops in Afghanistan? Simple: AIPAC and the "pro-Israel" lobby's ill-founded concern about the Hagel nomination...
      or:
      when the hawkish, "pro-Israel" lobby in America can influence our representatives to sound as if they – well – are representing Israel's citizens more than our own
      ... a line has been crossed.  Do you see that?

      Bashing AIPAC is no more anti-semitic than bashing the NRA is anti-American.  But if you're going to start from a position which posits that American legislators are IN ANY WAY more concerned with Israeli's than Americans, then that's a different issue.

      I hope I didn't speak out of turn with regard to bevenro's position.

      I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

      by Hey338Too on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:16:48 PM PST

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    •  no. it was the last line in The Troubadour's (1+ / 0-)
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      diary which was deliberately designed to inflame.  Even the setup of it made that obvious.

      VB took the bait, unfortunately.  He was rightly pissed off..  The rest of us with similar views criticized it, but didn't derail the diary.

      I'm fine with criticism of the lobby/AIPAC etc. (although AIPAC and the lobby aren't the same thing)

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