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  •  Property taxes (9+ / 0-)

    Best to point out that Texas lives off of property taxes for local services. Just think of all those schools and public debt in Johnson County and their cities. No more state aid. Where are they going to get the funds to operate and to fund the debts but from property taxes. A $300,000 home in TX could have property taxes of $15,000 or more a year. Johnson County average home value is $250,000. There are many homes with values in excess of $500,000. Income taxes are a percentage of earned income that could be subject to the whims of the economy. However, property taxes are a fixed cost. The Brownback craziest has spread across state line.  Of course, it is the billionaires in St Louis advocating to the rural poor. Think rural MO is poor now. Just wait when the welfare checks don't show up. You also need to look at the last election map. Outside of Wyndotte and Douglas counties painted blue. There was one little blue county in western KS, Liberal. My advice to the KS Republicans; you need to watch your western behind.

    •  Watch property values drop (4+ / 0-)
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      when you can't deduct your mortgage.

    •  Moving from Kansas to Texas, I thought that (15+ / 0-)

      "I'd be rich" because Texas had no state income tax.  "Look at all  the extra money, even without a raise!" I thought.

      Not a freaking chance!  

      Between crazy high property taxes, higher sales taxes, and high insurance caused by near utter lack of regulation in Texas, I was earning less in Texas, even without a state income tax.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:13:56 PM PST

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      •  How'd you like the "new resident fee"? (3+ / 0-)
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        The what?

        When you register your  out-of-state car in Texas for the first time, they add a little new resident fee... of $90.  

        They get you coming and going, same as anywhere else.  Unless you're a millionaire, you pay more.

        Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

        by nominalize on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:55:34 PM PST

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        •  Brownback wants to (2+ / 0-)
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          exempt new people who move to the state from paying state income taxes for 5 years.
          So even if people move here, they won't be adding to the state coffers for awhile.

          “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

          by skohayes on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:58:36 AM PST

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          •  Gotta find some way to attract people (2+ / 0-)
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            to a state that'll be swimming in red ink.

            "Stand up--Keep Fighting"--The Wellstone Campaign

            by Many Apples Many Sodas on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:55:05 AM PST

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          •  Why not offer them free land? (3+ / 0-)
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            Free stuff.  That's what worked in the 19th century.  Free handouts from the government is what this state was built on.  It wasn't tax breaks.

            Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

            by nominalize on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:29:29 AM PST

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            •  Well, out here in the western part of the state (1+ / 0-)
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              You need water rights if you want to build out in the country or you buy in town, and water rights are few and far between and jealously guarded by farmers and ranchers.
              I moved here from the east coast and thought I could just buy some land and set up a little ranchette out in the country somewhere. Ha.

              “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

              by skohayes on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 07:32:10 AM PST

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            •  You'd have to take the land away from the huge (0+ / 0-)

              farms or something.  There isn't much state-owned land at all to give away.

              Since Brownback won't spend a nickel on anything, they won't be buying up land, or houses, or .. whatever... to give away.  

              So, give away Kansas' future by not raising any income.  Yeah, like that will work.  He's just screwing future legislatures and current residents.

              Hopefully, the people will rebel against this stupidity.

              "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

              by YucatanMan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:03:43 PM PST

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              •  You can't give them land, (0+ / 0-)

                but you can give them free stuff instead.

                My point is--- previous attempts to lure people here involved give-aways and wealth redistribution (from Indians to whites), and they worked to lure people.  Future attempts will need to do something similar if they're going to work.  Just cutting back doesn't cut it.  Otherwise, you have to rely on the free market, but the free market won't lead many to Kansas... it has nothing that other no-tax states would have.  

                Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

                by nominalize on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:19:02 PM PST

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            •  Free land stolen through broken treaties. n/t (0+ / 0-)

              "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

              by YucatanMan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:04:40 PM PST

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        •  That's "new" since I got here, thankfully! n/t (0+ / 0-)

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:00:24 PM PST

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    •  Hays used to elect some Democrats and there is (3+ / 0-)
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      still a bit of a stronghold in Topeka, some parts of Wichita.

      But as far as entire counties being blue, I think you are right.

      Demographics are changing rapidly in Western Kansas, with tons of Latinos and (some) Asians due to meat packing plants. Whites are dying off or moving away.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:20:08 PM PST

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      •  Don't forget Lawrence (3+ / 0-)
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        not just democratic but quite reasonably progressive.

        I'm truly sorry Man's dominion Has broken Nature's social union--Robert Burns

        by Eric Blair on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:43:14 PM PST

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        •  Because it's a university town (4+ / 0-)
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          College kids and professors help make a town livable, with concerts, plays, art, new ideas, entrepreneurs, good restaurants, etc. Plus, college people are smart enough to vote for Democrats.

          If I had to move to Texas, I'd want to live in Austin.

          “If you misspell some words, it’s not plagiarism.” – Some Writer

          by Dbug on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:12:20 PM PST

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          •  Unfortunately (2+ / 0-)
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            Lawrence has been absorbed into the "Big First" district (Tim Huelskamp, Teabagger extraordinaire) to have less impact. Redistricting took care of our blue dot of Lawrence.

            “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

            by skohayes on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:00:49 AM PST

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        •  Lawrence was already mentioned in the (0+ / 0-)

          comment I was responding to: Douglas County.

          I love Lawrence.  One of my first choices (along with KC) to live if I had all the money I needed and could live wherever I liked.  Like that will ever happen . . .

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:01:43 PM PST

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