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  •  Give credit to Limbaugh: BIGGEST LIE (24+ / 0-)

    in the history of the Republican Party.

    The bottom line is, they don't have any better record at picking winners than the, quote, unquote, "amateur" Tea Party types do.
    -- And even when they pick winners, what do we end up winning?
    -- We get squishy Republican moderates.
    Since when did the "amateurs" have anything to do with picking Tea Party billionaire-financed John Birch Society Billionaires Club candidates ???

    The "amateurs" came up with the Tea Party tag immediately after the inauguration in 2009. Seeing a Black man fulfill the dreams of Lincoln and Dr. King was too much for these bars-n-bars waving, drop-out dumbasses.

    By the 2010 election cycle, the billionaires had used their JBS resources and personnel from Leadership Institute to move actual campaigns to Freedom Watch. The prime objective was to keep Business Republicans from winning seats.

    That 's their club, the John Birch Society. They started their main fight to control the Republican Party in 1984. This effort continued steadily and successfully through 2000, then again grabbed off dozens of seats in 2010.

    Limbaugh knows damn well that Business Republicans are down to 84 seats in the House. He also knows that the JBS billionaires have been the prime slaughterers, not Democrats.
    These are clearly Birchers.

    Check jbs.org for their paranoid schemes and marching orders. Way more 1959 than 2009.

    At present, based on voting patterns, there are 150 Birchers in the House.

    Blame the Tea Party Amateurs !!

    Agree or disagree with what Limbaugh pukes into his microphone. If you accept his absurd premise that "amateurs" selected those loser candidates -- not the billionaire paranoids and their hirelings -- then he has moved the heat off the Fools.

    And the Fools will continue to finance Rush, JBS, any number of stupid projects, and the ongoing sabotage of the Party of Lincoln, Eisenhower, Dewey the prosecutor, Giuliani the prosecutor, and the amnesty for illegal immigrants of Ronald Reagan.

    Go Rush !!

    "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

    by bontemps2012 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:16:14 PM PST

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    •  JBS National Visit Your State Legislator Day Feb20 (8+ / 0-)

      Mark your calendars!

      "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement" ~ Will Rogers

      by Lefty Coaster on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:20:12 PM PST

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    •  "JBS" is too easy (10+ / 0-)

      I admit to having thought the John Birch Society was long gone, isolated and scattered to the wind after the Big Purge of the 60s after the Goldwater debacle.  Yes, I know the Koch family created the JBS, and their politics haven't softened any through the generational pass-down.  But I do think they've gotten a helluva lot more sophisticated.  What I know of the far right takeover of the Republican Party is that it is truly a ground-up operation, and that it's been underway since the 80s at least.  And, that the Kochs aren't the evil puppet masters behind it all.

      Oh, they're evil puppet masters, f'sure. And, they're behind much of it.  But not it all.

      Stay sharp.

      •  I couldn't agree more (9+ / 0-)

        The harsh fact is that Tea Party base is real even if the Tea Party brand is toast. There's a large constituency out there that is vulnerable to RW crack pottery. We ignore that reality at  our own peril.

        Nothing human is alien to me.

        by WB Reeves on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:52:43 AM PST

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        •  Still, don't blame the "Fox Addicts" (11+ / 0-)

          for Fox News.

          The beliefs are real. The drivers behind these beliefs are virtually 100% artificial.

          It works by inducing exogenous paranoia. "They Are Out To Get You !!"

          Think of the Germans for the 15 years after WW I and you get the pattern -- fear of Slavs, communism, Jews, homosexuals, Baptists, gypsies, anything-and-everything had a scape goat.

          Get it rolling so the lies become communal delusions, it works.

          "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

          by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:58:19 AM PST

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          •  Even with the Germans (2+ / 0-)

            there was a grain of truth beneath a mountain of lies and distortion. The fact is that the victorious European Allies were out to cripple and punish Germany in the aftermath of WWI. That's why the Treaty of Versailles held such a prominent place in RW German propaganda during the inter war period.

            Nothing human is alien to me.

            by WB Reeves on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:02:33 AM PST

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            •  That's why the Tea Party is so creepy. (4+ / 0-)

              Germany was in dire, dire straits after WWI.  It's always been the CW that such straits are necessary to send people hounding after numerous boogymen.  This country has not had that sort of collapse, and all these people are available for exploitation anyway -they even think there's a war against Christians.

              The force of hatred and paranoia is strong.

              •  A key divergence (3+ / 0-)

                but there is a point of convergence as well. Post WWI Germany was not just in a state of military and economic collapse but social collapse as well. The onrush of modernity was seen as destroying the familiar social and cultural patterns of the past. There was a pervasive sense of displacement, alienation and victimization.

                Consider that the "Tea Party" demographic is concentrated in exurban and rural portions of the country. People in these areas identify with a mythic memory of a small town, agrarian America that was in the process of passing away when I was born. This is a profound social and cultural shift and it's hardly a surprise that a significant segment of the population would feel displaced, alienated and victimized by it.  

                Nothing human is alien to me.

                by WB Reeves on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 01:25:33 PM PST

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                •  Hitler's biggest support came from peasants (0+ / 0-)

                  While Germany between the wars had world-beating industrial corporations, its agriculture was little different from how it had been in the 19th century.  It was labor-intensive and unproductive, with the land area per farmer comparable with backward countries such as Ireland, Poland or Romania.  Combined with the unequal distribution of farmland in Germany (much of it in the north and east was monopolized by the Junkers), this meant that most German farming families had to subsist on just a few hectares of land each.  Not surprisingly, Hitler's promises to expand Germany's Lebensraum were music to the ears of German peasants.

                  In Hitler's first cabinet, the post of Minister of Agriculture was the only one connected to the economy to be held by a card-carrying Nazi (Walther Darré).  A new class of hereditary family farms (the Erbhöfe) were set up which couldn't be foreclosed, and food prices were fixed artificially high by the Reichsnährstand.  As a result, urban German workers under the Nazis had to spend almost half their income on food. In spite of this (plus efforts to modernize German agriculture), Germany still couldn't be made self-sufficient in food, which is why the Nazis looked to solve the problem by annexing and depopulating Eastern Europe.

                  The Nazis were no doubt also confirmed in their belief that Germany needed more Lebensraum by the observation that millions of Germans (and other Europeans) had sought Lebensraum on an individual basis by emigrating to the United States.

            •  Hitler came on as Left Wing + Racism (0+ / 0-)

              party.

              His 1919 formula put it to "25 Points."

              Sturmabteilung (SA) -- the Brown Shirts -- were working class guys. 3,000,000 of them enrolled, paying dues when Hitler got to power.

              The SA is a model for "Tea Party" bxllshit. A fake all the way.

              When Hitler got in, he went to his true colors. Industrialists/the military/banking -- all of them lined up with him.

              Then he ran up a huge deficit. An unpayable debt from overreaching his his full-emplyment stimulus programs. That was part of what forced him to go to war.

              He had no other way to continue in power except to go over to a command economy.  

              "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

              by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:33:37 PM PST

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              •  Hitler wanted war from the very beginning (1+ / 0-)
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                And the civilian work-creation programs in Nazi Germany were actually quite small-scale, and mostly inherited from the previous administration.  The stimulus was overwhelmingly directed towards rearmament, and most of Germany's debt was run up either directly importing raw materials for armaments, or as a result of the overvalued Reichsmark (which made these raw material imports cheaper, but at the cost of pricing German goods out of a lot of export markets).

      •  Ground up, Hell. (5+ / 0-)

        Gold Rules.

        With about a half-dozen exceptions the 150 Birchers in the House got there on billionaire money.

        The big fight has been billionaire-vs.-business, ideology-vs.-pragmatism since the civil rights movement threatened to upend politics in the 1950s.

        John Birch Society is the club house. For the billionaires.

        "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

        by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:55:38 AM PST

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      •  Empire Farm Days : Birchers have a booth (1+ / 0-)
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        every year. It's the Central New York chapter.  
        I almost fainted when I first saw them there around 2007 or so.  
         My company had a booth there, so unfortunely I couldn't say anything.  I don't know how to post the PDF of past shows, but it's the net somewhere....

        http://www.empirefarmdays.com/

        "I have to go... There are two gay men knocking on my door asking me if I need any abortions or marijuana. Diary, this may be my last entry" Facebook hysteria after 2012 election

        by pitbullgirl65 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 12:51:01 PM PST

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    •  The GOP of Lincoln died with Lincoln nt (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Heard of Eisenhower, Nelson (2+ / 0-)
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        Rockefeller, Earl Warren, eh?

        It was a liberal Republican SCOTUS that put through civil rights and legalized abortion.

        "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

        by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:57:54 AM PST

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        •  Not gonna argue, they betrayed black people (2+ / 0-)
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          In the South for the grand bargain of 1876. Lincoln ONLY freed slaves in the south. What did the GOP do for us before 1952?
          Nothing.
          Civil rights aren't some gift that someone bestowed; they were hard fought. Unfortunately, we are failing to uphold them now, but the forces of oppression, regression and exclusion  are very strong.

          Eisenhower was 80 years later. Certainly, the current GOP has turned itself into a Neo-confederate party. It is very sad, no not really. The GOP and their rotten racist women hating, gay bashing, anti-immigrant, gun worshipping TBag base can go to the devil.  

          Thanks for letting me know that Warren was a R, that I didn't know.

        •  Don't whitewash Eisenhower. (3+ / 0-)
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          Jesus.  Yes, he appointed Earl Warren, and after the Warren Court started entering its magnificent opinions, Eisenhower said Warren's appointment was the biggest damfool mistake he'd ever made.

          •  Ike said 99 different things (0+ / 0-)

            about appointing Earl Warren.

            Weeks when the South looked like Bull Run III, it wasn't pretty.

            "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

            by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:36:24 PM PST

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        •  Nonsense (0+ / 0-)

          The Supreme Court that ruled unanimously on Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 consisted of eight Democratic appointees, and one member appointed by Eisenhower. Justices Black, Reed, Douglas, Frankfurter, and Jackson were appointed by FDR, Justices Burton, Minton, and Clark were appointed by Truman, and Chief Justice Warren was appointed by Eisenhower as a result of a deal made for the support of the California delegation at the 1952 Republican convention. Eisenhower later said that one of his biggest mistakes as President was the nomination of Chief Justice Warren.

          •  Well, yes. (0+ / 0-)

            But appointing Warren was still a good move and Warren was a wonderful man to have as CJ.

            I didn't intend to say that Warren was a key vote.

            "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

            by bontemps2012 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:37:58 PM PST

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