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  •  Really? (4+ / 0-)
    Random comment somewhere. "We have to be licensed to catch a fish, why not all gun ownership?)
    Why is gun ownership so protected in the first place?

    I see what you did there.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:07:41 PM PST

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    •  I don't think it is that protected. (1+ / 0-)
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      This is pure supposition, haven't read enough of the original arguments, letters, etc. to know if it comes up at all. Hasn't been in what I have read and very minimally  in discussions about that literature. Which is central to my hypothesis.

      What if the founders didn't bother to protect personal ownership for hunting and self defense in the Constitution because in our terms, it was a no brainer for them?

      The 2A is about militias and the people who participated in them. It was a division of rights and responsibilities between the feds and states.

      I don't think they were overly concerned about the citizens being able to control their government from becoming a tyranny through voting and the other rights. At this point, fighting any government tyranny that involves violence or violating other rights (Patriot Act etc.), will only be successful through peaceful, non violent resistance.

      Gandhi, King and Mandela established in the 20th century it was effective at national levels in three different countries. Ongoing development of concepts and implementation, new technology, and events in the 21st century, further establish that violence against tyranny will not achieve what it always had up to and 2 centuries beyond the world as the founders knew it.

      In short, I think a thorough review of this might indicate an amendment that specifically addresses gun ownership for hunting and self defense would be very appropriate. And I would support it.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:04:08 PM PST

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    •  Oh no, you're not trying to feed into that whole (0+ / 0-)

      RKBA thing are you? Here's a fact. Second Amendment participation is the only thing in The Bill of Rights that gets cut off merely for a criminal conviction (and I'm not necessarily arguing that that's a bad thing). The only one.

      For your information this makes RKBA a privilege, not a "right".

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:31:10 PM PST

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