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  •  I don't like the suggestion in this diary (0+ / 0-)

    And that is that the U.S. is behind.  Because marriage is predominantly a state issue, the federal government cannot regulate least not yet.  Some day this may change but for now (unless the Supreme Court rules), it is a state by state process.  So the more important question is this:

    Why did the United Kingdom lag behind Massachussetts, California*, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, the District of Columbia, New York, Maryland, and Washington?  For that matter, why does France?  And Germany?  And all these other supposedly more progressive, enlightened, and sophisticated states?  

    *California was the first state in the country where the state legislature enacted same-sex marriage.  We did this twice before it fell to a veto from Governor Gropenfuhrer.  

    Anyway, Cameron deserves a great deal of credit for this.  This is probably his greatest legacy (and Nick Clegg's too).  Labour though also deserves the credit too as their numbers were needed to do it.  If Cameron had gone by the Hastert or Boehner rule, this legislation wouldn't have passed.  The majority of Conservative MPs voted against.   He needed the support from Labour and Lib Dem MPs to make this a reality.  

    Also, your interviewee sounds ill-informed.  Marriage equality is an American export.  No one anywhere in the world cared about or thought about or wanted marriage equality until a bunch of activists began filing a lawsuit in Hawaii in the early 90's.  Even then, only a handful of foreign countries enacted marriage equality (the Netherlands, Canada) before U.S. states began legalizing same-sex marriage.  

    It is only as an equal rights issue that this has garnered support from the majority of the population.  

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    by SoCalLiberal on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:06:03 PM PST

    •  Exactly the reason I put it up for discussion (0+ / 0-)

      I wasn't asserting a universal truth, but an opinion worthy of debate. Thanks for your contribution - aids my understanding. But perhaps people would foster more insight and knowledge if they didn't always start, in the belligerent Kossack fashion: "I don't like the suggestion in this diary..."

      Cheers anyway

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      by Brit on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:51:09 AM PST

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