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  •  Yes I did (45+ / 0-)

    I was as partisan as one could get. But in college I was reading a lot more, different philosophies, different newspapers, different sources. I was out of the "Fox (News) Hole" between Bush's election in 2004 and Obama's in 2008. I no longer used cable news as a source of news, just a source of entertainment.

    As a student of economics I was exposed to a lot of evidence and history that exposed "conservative propaganda" as just that, mere propaganda.

    In needing to understand the system and the world as a student, I was understanding the context a lot better.

    Don't underestimate the power of events like 9/11, it really took me years to get out of that hole.

    And i viewed parties as coalitions. As mentioned in the essay, I acknowledged the social conservatives as the dopes that they were, but because i found myself in the same party as them, I sort of ignored them, or even embraced them, as long as they stuck to the tax policies that I liked which benefited who I wanted to be.

    I've just been able to think a lot more about the system and society as a whole, to grow out of a selfish greedy view to being more communitarian.

    Reading, and exposing one's self to differing opinions and explanations of policies, helps to keep one grounded and out of the wing-nuts' reach.

    •  Since you were just 14 on 9-11, were your parents (8+ / 0-)

      others in your life feeling much the same way as you were  ( as you described in your diary).  Were some of your conservative views at such young being influenced not just by Fox News and your church but also any family members, close friends, an adult you respected.

      I ask because many young teens who feel strongly about poliitcs are influenced not just by media but by peers, parents, relatives, or another adult they look up to.

      Who in your personal ciricle of friends and family had the most influence on you during your teen years? Who in particular was a big influence in your life besides media figures or those you read about?  

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      by wishingwell on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:00:04 AM PST

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      •  I was accepted into a private high school... (18+ / 0-)

        ...based on a scholarship too.

        I was surrounded essentially by conservative rich kids, so it was the default ideology for most people I knew in high school.

        My father wasn't around much and had little to no effect on my development in that area.

        I guess a lot of teachers, and my mother, and others I knew at the time were responding to an event like 9/11 with supporting a hawk, a Republican approach -- kill, and ask questions later.

        being liberal or encouraging hesitation at the time was considered unamerican, unpatriotic.

        I'll never forget watching the bombs fall on Afghanistan and Iraq on television, feeling extremely satisfied that we were getting revenge.

        Other than that generality though, I can't point out any single teacher or individual who made me into more of a conservative.

        I remember watching Bowling for Columbine though and really relating to the rage and such of the kids, and actually thinking guns were cool after that movie.

        I've had influence really from both sides -- but the low tax low regulation economic stuff really hit me from going to a rich private school, and the foreign policy stuff had to have come from 9/11 making me fear islamic fundamentalists and wanting to hunt them all down.

        I hope that adequately answers your question. I was essentially raised by my mother, so school, media, and jobs had an unusually large effect on my ideological development. But every time I  think of a particular teacher who may have influenced me more conservatively, I can easily think of a liberal who offset that. But I had to learn things on my own, i didn't have a hands-on father or family that really politicized me. 9/11 was the event that made me care about political issues and the news.

    •  GOP Propaganda (18+ / 0-)

       I used to vote R as well until I watched what the R's did to Clinton for an entire year. When he warned them about Bin Laden they claimed he was trying to change the subject. I started looking into the media infrastructure and realized that Clinton was the first Democratic President to feel the power of talk radio post the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1986. The year Rush went national was 1987.
         After 13 yrs of being a political/media junkie I realized that Rush, Beck, Hannity, Savage etc ALWAYS protect one of the big 5 industries on EVERY issue. They are all highly paid lobbyists. The real power is at the local AM level with their repetition and saturation of the national rightwing message.
        Looking into Goebbels strategy in Germany, I realized the corporatocracy basically followed his 3 step technique.
      He said, in essence, You can control a people anyhwere at any time by doing 3 things
      1. Always have an enemy (Obama, Govt, gays, immigrants etc etc)
      2. Always be the UBER Patriot
      3. Always have the means to repeat and repeat and repeat your message until it becomes the "truth"
         It explained how we have gotten in this mess and how the people of Germany followed a mad man.

      •  Yes, killing the fairness doctrine was maybe (6+ / 0-)

        the most destructive and far reaching thing Reagan did to Democracy out of all of his legacy... and he has a lot to answer for besides that... it is so huge and pervasive for the cumulative effect as to be invisible in plain sight... subtle in once sense because talk radio is just the wallpaper of the broadcast sound... pervasive. Only the internet arrived to counterbalance it... and enough years of more intelligent people tuning out what does square with what they can pick up from reality directly and from alternative sources. The tilt  back, the counter-swing of the pendulum is underway but the poison and harm done by the unleashing of biased one-sided monopoly radio will linger for years.

        Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

        by IreGyre on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 02:59:13 PM PST

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