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  •  Get a grip (0+ / 0-)

    Reread my comment - I did not call you a sociopath. I simply pointed out two FACTS:
     - SOME parents have mental issues
     - Schoolteachers are often the only people a child comes in contact with who are trained to detect abuse and who are required to report it.

    Note that my comment was in response to a diaried situation where the parents actually did claim to be home-schooling a child, in order to hide that they were horribly abusing that child.

    As for the commenters who seemed to think I want to outlaw home-schooling -- no, I don't. I want to reform it. I think that home-schooled children should be able to pass all the same exams that public schoolchildren are required to pass in their state. This is to protect them from situations like being "schooled" by an unqualified person with a 4th-grade education, or a religious nut teaching them that all they need to know is the Bible. Also, home-schooled children should get a yearly meeting with a qualified pediatric mental health specialist, to weed out the cases where parents keep their kids from school to hide abuse.

    From the OTT reactions above, I guess I need to clarify that I am not talking about any specific Kossack when I speak of uneducated or nutso home-schooling parents. I would hope that home-schooling Kossacks are smart enough to realize that not every home-schooling parent is as perfect as they are, and compassionate enough to give a rat's patootie about the children of these less-than-perfect non-Kossack parents.

    Democracy - Not Plutocracy!

    by vulcangrrl on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:14:08 PM PST

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    •  I don't want my son to pass (0+ / 0-)

      "every single test public school kids are required to pass". I don't want to have to teach to their tests. I want him to learn how to write correctly and not just give the correct answer without real grammar and thought (see some of the diaries of late by teachers on the quality of standardized testing). Also, not all kids test well. Our kids aren't "standard". They don't have "standard" educational needs. It took me three years to catch him up to where he should have been in several subjects when I decided to home school him. He had passed the FCAT EVERY year. I don't know how, unless the school was cheating. He couldn't add and subtract fractions at the end of fifth grade (I pulled him out before sixth), and yet he could pass the FCAT?? He couldn't write a coherent paragraph, and yet he passed the FCAT's writing portion? At every IEP meeting they told me he was "below grade level" and yet every year he was successful on the FCAT. Why should I hold him to those standards?
      I'd rather he was doing what he's doing now, in 11th grade and studying Biology out of my college Biology book, with added information from Khan Academy and college lectures and webpages online. He may not know the rote answers they learn to take that test, but he knows how to think and articulate his ideas correctly.

      "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

      by FloridaSNMOM on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:29:19 PM PST

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    •  Forgive me (0+ / 0-)

      I mis-represented your statement. I apologize. You said, "I would venture to say that people who homeschool have at best family social issues and at worst sociopathic beliefs and tendencies."

      So AT WORST I'm a sociopath. AT BEST we have family social issues. Totally different. I imagine I'm somewhere in between in your estimation, so maybe I'm only a little sociopathic. I'll call my therapist.

      (My point being that I doubt you know more than a handful of homeschoolers. I know hundreds.

      Homeschoolers get this every single time the term comes up here, in any context, and it hurts; words harm. I invite you--in all sincerity and friendship--to message me if you're ever in Portland to come meet my daughters. My family is on the goofy side, but we're neither sociopathic nor have any more "social issues"--though I'm unclear on exactly what you mean by that term--than any other family. My girls are universally described as warm, funny, articulate and charming, not because I'm a super-parent but because that's who they are.)

      •  LynnS: You must be replying to someone else (0+ / 0-)

        I never said "I would venture to say that people who homeschool have at best family social issues and at worst sociopathic beliefs and tendencies." That was another commenter. But I'm sure your inability to read does not affect your ability to homeschool.

        FloridaSNMOM: If your kid is so darned well-educated, why are you opposed to him taking the standard tests? After all, if he could pass them when in public school, he should be able to pass them with your so-excellent home-schooling.

        When people have reactions like this to the simple fact (as illustrated by the article that prompted these comments) that not all parents who home-school are doing so in the child's best interest - I feel like I'm on Red State, not Dkos.

        Democracy - Not Plutocracy!

        by vulcangrrl on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 11:06:06 AM PST

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