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  •  If I'm reading your source articles correctly (3+ / 0-)
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    (and it's entirely likely that I'm not, so please straighten me out on any conceptual errors), the radioactive elements issue isn't so much that they are radioactive (as there do exist a fair share of "naturally occurring radio active elements in nature...yes? but that because these are in water, the regular kinds of waste and sewage treatment plants aren't able to effectively process the radioactive parts the way they can process and filter all the other waste materials.

    If I'm understanding this correctly, that's a slightly different issue/point of concern than the one your first summary paragraph after the kos doodle intimates.  

    Or am I reading this incorrectly?

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    by a gilas girl on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 02:58:04 PM PST

    •  The radioactive matter (5+ / 0-)

      Radium, iridium, thorium, and few other isotopes are naturally occurring in shale formations and contaminate wastewater from wells. Standard water treatments cannot handle the removal of these isotopes. That was the upshot of the NYT article in 2011. From the DOE's National Energy Test Lab reports, it looks like the Integrated Water Technologies process removes these from the distilled water component, but isotope levels are still well above acceptable limits in the concentrate water (CW) stream.

      I wanted to give some background on toxic substances found in drilling wastewater (i.e., why it needs to be treated). I discovered two issues surrounding this wastewater. I go on to discuss tests of the two types of liquids from the Integrated Water Technologies purification process. It is the CW stream, with heavy metals, dissolved solids, and even radioactive isotopes that the DEP wants to approve to treat roads, parking lots, and fields. Sorry for not making clearer.

      Be radical in your compassion.

      by DWG on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 04:47:21 PM PST

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    •  Well rattlesnake venom is naturally occuring as (0+ / 0-)

      well, would you care to ingest some or even have some injected?  Remember that those naturally occurring radioactive isotopes were in the ground and therefore not being ingested by people (in food or drinking water).

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:57:38 AM PST

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      •  Nowhere did I say it wasn't (0+ / 0-)

        all I was doing was trying to clarify what seemed like a difference between the summary paragraph and the original article.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 01:14:37 PM PST

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