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  •  Would you care to write a diary on what you (0+ / 0-)

    learned?

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:55:27 AM PST

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    •  the tour was so long ago (1+ / 0-)
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      Ginny in CO

      that I really wouldn't do the materials testing labjustice. But it was pretty interesting---they test the blend that goes into asphalt/concrete, the paint and reflective material on signs.

      relax relate release

      by terrypinder on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 06:01:16 AM PST

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      •  This was my under-informed question: (3+ / 0-)
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        surely the state DOTs have a meterials standard, and testing to confirm compliance, for the stuff (whatever its composition) they spread on the roads in the winter to melt/reduce the snow and ice?  And the (simple?) question would be if the fracking brine (whichever stream its origin or whatever its composition) meets the standard or not, and if not, WHY would it be put on the roads?  

        ANYthing spread on the roads (including the inadvertent rubber particles, hydrocartbons from fuel/oil/lubricants, and miscellaneous metal particles/dust) has the potential (or damn-near certainty) of winding up in surface water, and thus in drinking water supplies.

        Everything is connected, and a lot of it eventually to the faucet in your house.

        Morons...

        I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

        by tom 47 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 07:36:31 AM PST

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        •  other states may have different standards (1+ / 0-)
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          also, states are only responsible for salt use on state maintained roads. in PA there are over 70,000 plus more miles that are locally maintained, and they may use almost whatever they want at whatever price they can get it at, so even if the state chooses not to use the brine, locals certainly can. As posted above, it's being done in Ohio.

          relax relate release

          by terrypinder on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 07:44:44 AM PST

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        •  When the (3+ / 0-)

          trace materials in the brine dry out on the road, vehicle tires are going to kick the dust into the air where we can breathe it.  If some of those trace materials are toxic, that could be a problem.

          Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

          by 6412093 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 11:23:35 AM PST

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