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  •  sorry but if you commit treason (0+ / 0-)

    you surrender any claim to american citizenship and that's pretty much the same for any nation and plotting and coluding with terrorists is treason

    This isn't about any random person being killed and frankly AQ decided to declare war on us, not the other way around so I definitely don't agree with you calling it assassination.

    Drone strikes are effective, more selective then other options and minimize risk and as such I support them

    As to AQ, yeah we 'trained' them (in that we supplied them) back in the 80s and then we ignored them both Clinton and Bush II as a result thousands died.

    •  al-Awlaki's son was 16, and was killed (1+ / 0-)
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      a week after al-Awlaki.  This wasn't collateral damage.  This was an assassination.

      And I've said it many times: If you're going to talk about Treason then provide an explanation of what Awlaki's son did.  Why didn't he get a trial at all?

      Most of the excuses I hear are about how it's a foreign country so he didn't need a trial.  But really, I could care less about another country, or the US, in terms of what constitute treason.  All I know is that we've been told that they kiled awlaki and then later told we had killed is son, in a different strike.  I have never heard a single word that passed this kids lips, and he got killed for having the wrong dad.  

      To be fair, he was 16 and I bet he was the worst.

    •  Questions, questions (1+ / 0-)
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      sorry but if you commit treason you surrender any claim to american citizenship and that's pretty much the same for any nation and plotting and coluding with terrorists is treason
      Who was convicted of plotting and colluding with terrorists that was killed in these bombings?
      This isn't about any random person being killed
      How do you know this? Obama's kill list is secret.
      and frankly AQ decided to declare war on us, not the other way around so I definitely don't agree with you calling it assassination.
      How else do you define assassination?
      Drone strikes are effective, more selective then other options and minimize risk and as such I support them
      How do bombings minimize the risk of killing innocent people? How do bombings limit the blowback that'll arise from the constant bombings?
      •  assassination (0+ / 0-)

        implies striking an unaware and single target

        AQ is neither

        And seriously? You'd rather call in an F-16? Maybe we could drop a couple cluster bombs I mean the goal would be achieved still but the loss of life would be absurd.

        And I see you've fallen victim to the paranoid stylings that apparently this is all just a plot to kill whomever annonys Obama on any given day

        •  qsdf (0+ / 0-)
          assassination implies striking an unaware and single target

          AQ is neither

          Where is the proof that these are members of Al Qaeda (already a very vaguely defined group)? What is the extent of involvement with Al Qaeda or similar groups that warrant assassination? Is for example professing sympathy for Al Qaeda enough to get bombed (and your neighborhood with you)?
          And seriously? You'd rather call in an F-16? Maybe we could drop a couple cluster bombs I mean the goal would be achieved still but the loss of life would be absurd.
          No, I don't want to substitute one bombing for the other.
          And I see you've fallen victim to the paranoid stylings that apparently this is all just a plot to kill whomever annonys Obama on any given day
          Paranoid? You dispute that Obama know has the power to designate anyone around the globe he wants as an Al Qaeda agent (or affiliated to Al Qaeda) without any oversight and bomb them?
          •  seriously? (0+ / 0-)

            well if you want to be privy to national secrets then I suggest you get a job that gives you access but your accussation that the adminstration is just indiscriminately attacking people is laughable

            then what do you want?

            and yes you're paranoid, the above twisted logic is proof of that

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