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  •  Hence the crime of murder. But if you insist on (0+ / 0-)

    bans to try to achieve those ends, you have many objects used far more often than the firearms in the AWB. Clubs are used more often to murder. Knives are used over five times more often to murder. Bare hands are used over twice as often to murder.

    "have to be ready to cede your ground"
    Not a chance in hell.

    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

    by FrankRose on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 10:24:36 AM PST

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    •  I would really change that statement to (0+ / 0-)

      the rifles in the AWB.

      Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

      by KVoimakas on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 10:30:48 AM PST

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    •  Here's the thing (0+ / 0-)

      It's possible to kill people with a lot of objects, not to mention physical extremities. But guns are made for once purpose. To fire bullets at living creatures. Hobbyists may like to shoot pieces of paper at a distance, but everyone knows what the real purpose of a gun is.

      You can bluster all you want, but I can't help notice that never once have I encountered you once attempt to assume the victim's point of view, and I also can't help but notice that every one of your desired aims dovetails neatly with the aims of the gun manufacturers.

      2nd Amendment absolutism in the face of reason is just selfishness, and refusal to consider the predicament of the innocent victim of random gun violence is perverse. That is all.

      •  "selfishness" Selfishness is insisting that (0+ / 0-)

        innocent Americans give up their liberties for your fears.

        You are the one asking to take something from innocent Americans for you to receive perceived security.

        "assume the victims point of view"
        I would want the guilty person caught & punished.
        You would want an innocent person to lose an object.

        Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

        by FrankRose on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:49:33 AM PST

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