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  •  bronte - I am not sure who owns the rights (6+ / 0-)

    to the crime scene and autopsy photos of the dead children. It may be the coroner, or the city or state, or the parents. As long as each individual parent approves, I have no issues with the photographs being made public.  I think few MSM outlets would show them on a live broadcast, but many would put them on their website, with the appropriate warnings, and they would be widely viewed.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 11:55:53 AM PST

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    •  Actually, you can photoshop the bodies out, (0+ / 0-)

      just show the chaos and the tiny blood pools.  Imaginiation will fill in the rest as, if not more,  powerfully.

    •  Rights? To your own dead child? (2+ / 0-)
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      We are discussing funeral images and open coffins... which last time I checked... are paid by the family.

      Very much paid for by the family and NOT the government NOR the county NOR the coroner. It's expensive as hell to bury someone.

      And if the mothers and fathers of those innocent slain-like-sheep children want the world to bear witness to the horrors their child suffered in their last moments alive... then that is exactly what happens.

      Furthermore, the damn coroner and the county agencies working that crime scene are PUBLIC employees and we have every right to review their work.

      The murderer is dead in this case. There will be no long trial and his rights were extinguished when he killed himself.

      One may live without bread, but not without roses.
      ~Jean Richepin
      Bread & Roses

      by bronte17 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 04:06:26 PM PST

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      •  bronte - as I wrote (0+ / 0-)

        I have no problems with photos being made public, as long as the individual parents give their consent. The parents can obviously take any pictures of dead child they so choose. I just don't know who has the rights to the photos from the coroners office and the crime scene.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:10:46 PM PST

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    •  In Floriduh they passed a law after Dale Earnhardt (1+ / 0-)
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      was killed and the autopsy photos were printed in newspapers, to make them unobtainable other than to state attorneys, defense attorneys and family if they so choose to want them.
         I asked for all evidence in my kids murder, I have often thought about posting the pics of the 8 entry holes and 2 exit wounds on the gun nut threads on here. Yeah, guns are all fun and games til your child comes home in a fucking box...
         The reality is I believe I'd be the only one affected by them, you hear of these shootings so much, so often, to where I think most people have become so accustomed to hearing it all that seeing the reality of it all wouldn't have the effect you'd hope it would. They are immune to it or try to remain that way at least so that they're steeled into pulling that trigger when the time comes.
         I'll never forget the story my dad told me about seeing the electric chair up close and personal as a young law student- he became violently ill and literally passed out. He saw it as looking at the epitome of evil but until he saw it with his own eyes the stories and details about it truly meant nothing at all to him. Though we had a differing opinion about the death penalty I learned to respect the opinion he had of it given the introduction to the means of carrying it out that I've never been privy to.
         Most gun fans have those things for one of two reasons, to hunt with, or their fears of their fellow man to the extent that they have them to kill with if and when they feel it is warranted. The latter of the two will not be phased by the brutal, sickening reality.
         Unless of course it's their kid, their wife, their mother, brother, friend, ect.

      Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

      by teabaggerssuckbalz on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:00:58 PM PST

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