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  •  Good god (1+ / 0-)
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    You've jumped the shark.

    ....people with ptsd or mental illness should not be made the scapegoats for gun violence.
    WTF does that even mean?

    Where? When? How?

    All anyone has to do is whine -- and you fall for it and think it's all about them.

    Get hold of yourself, Turkana. Never in this whole nationwide gun drama -- was PTSD ever a player. Did the President mention PTSD? Did congress? Did the news stories about 12/14?

    I've covered the murder-suicide beat since 2008, day after day, and I have rarely heard it mentioned except in certain academic papers.

    This place is filled with drama queeens.

    It's hopeless.



    Denial is a drug.

    by Pluto on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:24:29 AM PST

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    •  as i wrote in december (0+ / 0-)

      long before this latest meta incident, and before the murders that led to it:

      No one knows what causes someone to take a gun and start shooting people. No one ever will. Every time there is a mass shooting, news reporters dig into the personal history of the murderer, as if something in the biography will provide a clue. It never does. Mental illness, abusive childhoods, collapsed relationships, setbacks at school or work, and any number of other factors often are found, but none provides the answer. Hundreds of millions of people have suffered from mental illness, abusive childhoods, collapsed relationships, setbacks at school or work, and every other form of stress or trauma without deciding to kill people. Why do these individuals become killers? Bob Geldof's answer remains the best explanation, because there is no explanation.

      The one thing all mass shooters have in common is guns. That's it. Mental illness, abusive childhoods, collapsed relationships, setbacks at school or work, and every other form of stress or trauma take place in every nation in the world, but of all the developed democracies only in the United States do we have more than 10,000 gun-related deaths each year. Every other developed democracy has some form of effective gun control. The United States doesn't. Those looking for other explanations have reasons for looking for other explanations. People in the other developed democracies watch the same movies and play the same video games, but they don't shoot each other at anything even approaching the rate that Americans do. It's about guns. When that silicon chip inside the head of people in other developed democracies gets switched to overload, they can't just go grab a gun and start shooting. People in the United States can.

      danang's point about ptsd fits that exactly.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:32:31 AM PST

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    •  Yup (1+ / 0-)
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      This place is filled with drama queeens.

      We are often so identified with whatever thoughts we may be having that we don’t realize the thoughts are a commentary on reality, and not reality itself. -- Gangaji

      by Mnemosyne on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 01:44:06 PM PST

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