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  •  Very pertinent to BSA and its special military (2+ / 0-)
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    connection.

    Did anyone know that an Eagle Scout who enlists in the US military is automatically bumped up or is eligible to be bumped up a rank simply by being an Eagle Scout?

    Actually, it looks like it is a paygrade (is that the same as a rank?), at least in the Navy:

    Eagle Scouts/Girl Scouts:

    E-3 -- Authorized enlistment in, or advancement to paygrade E3 having provided evidence of successful completion of requirements for Eagle Scout or the Girl Scout Gold Award.

    http://usmilitary.about.com/...

    Army is similar:
    •Has been awarded the Boy Scout Eagle certificate as a member of the Boy Scouts of America (Form 58-708).

    •Has earned the Girl Scout Gold award certificate as a member of the Girl Scouts of America.

    http://usmilitary.about.com/...

    Looks like the other branches are similar.

    Similar advanced standing is accorded for experience in ROTC, Civil Air Patrol, Naval Sea Cadet Corps, recognized military academies, etc.  I believe it may be that BSA and GSA are the only civilian organization accorded such standing.

    Just interesting.  I believe the GSA has already been past the gay discrimination thing, though I'm not sure exactly what their policy says.

    Anyone?

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    by tom 47 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:41:48 AM PST

    •  And I got preference for being hired as a busboy.. (0+ / 0-)

      ...because being an Eagle Scout said something about character & ability to stick with it that made them willing to try me out despite lack of experience.

      Scouting experience is more relevant to the military than to cleaning tables, but the point is that it is a demonstrated accomplishment that implies some things about you.

      For being hired as an engineer, college degrees serve a similar purpose.

    •  yup (0+ / 0-)

      As a former girl scout: yes, the Girl Scouts has been through this.  They are pretty mild about their support, mostly saying that sexuality isn't a topic for scouting, but in the sense that they don't care and everyone is welcome.   They've also officially gone on record welcoming trans* girls.  

      FYI, it's the GSUSA, not the GSA.  

      The Gold Award is very similar to the Eagle Scout rank, except that it is set up as an award and not a rank -- the only ranks in Girl Scouts are age-based.  It has similar requirements -- merit badges, community service/leadership, and a final project to improve the community.  I didn't go for it; I got my gold Leadership pin but not the other two parts.  

      I see Eagle Scout on resumes a lot; I don't see the Gold Award much because people don't know what it is, which is a shame.

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