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  •  As a young mixed-race kid whose mom (3+ / 0-)
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    wanted him to be a boy scout for a long time, they didn't teach me much about science, but they did teach me a lot about racism, bigotry, redneckism, violence, how to shoot all manner of things (arrows, handguns, rifles, and cannons) and how to get beat up by boy and man alike.

    When she finally admitted to herself that I was right in saying that this is what I was learning there, she let me off the hook and let go of the "boy who's an Eagle Scout" dream.

    All I wanted to do was get away from those scary, hypermasculinized, borderline white-supremacist folks that seemed to exist to go out every weekend and kill something while reciting one pledge or another, often in hokey and embarrassing "native-american-caricature" language.

    But I suppose "scouting" is different in Utah from, say, the northeast (do people even do it there?! I never saw it when I was living in that area).

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    by nobody at all on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:42:58 AM PST

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    •  in CT... (1+ / 0-)
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      We lived in CT from '87 to '95. DS was born in '88 and in the cub scouts for a year. Since DH didn't want anything to do with the meetings, events or activities, everything fell to me. The only activity DH went on was a group hike. Anyway, after the derby event [in which DS's car took 2nd place :)] we dropped out. It was getting too hard for me to manage by myself while handling an infant.

      Two of my bros went from cub scouts to boy scouts. The troop met at a Japanese-Language school in Honolulu. I used to hang around the meetings, don't remember much going around religion.

      Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything. —molly ivins

      by fumie on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:04:14 AM PST

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    •  I live in NY and two friends (0+ / 0-)

      who have boys do the scouting thing. They are far from rednecks or racists.

      I suspect scouting reflects local values since it's mostly and local-run thing. In blue states, the scouts are bluer, in red states, redder.

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