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  •  The diarist seems to assume this is all (7+ / 0-)

    behind us, but it's really not. While we have significantly reduced our nuclear weapons, we have not eliminated them.

    The B-52s have largely been replaced by nuclear submarines, but they are still on patrol deep under the ocean...waiting for the order to fire.

    Here's my take on it - the revolution will not be blogged, it has to be slogged. - Deoliver47

    by OIL GUY on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 02:18:59 PM PST

    •  I haven't forgotten (8+ / 0-)

      We've walked back a bit, but we still have thousands of warheads.

      I'll probably do another one of these on where we are today.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 02:55:51 PM PST

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      •  How come (2+ / 0-)
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        Oldestsonofasailor, JeffW

        when both sides used to do above ground testing right and left, the fallout didn't cause more devastation?

        •  It's there... (4+ / 0-)
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          There are nuked out wastelands, the tests however were old lower yield devices in uninhabited areas...

          In 1968, the United States declared Bikini habitable and started bringing a small group of Bikinians back to their homes in the early 1970s as a test. In 1978, however, the islanders were removed again when strontium-90 in their bodies reached dangerous levels after a French team of scientists did additional tests on the island. It was not uncommon for women to experience faulty pregnancies, miscarriages, stillbirths, and damage to their offspring as a result of the nuclear testing on Bikini. The United States provided $150 million as a settlement for damages caused by the nuclear testing program.

          Since the early 1980s, the leaders of the Bikinian community have insisted that, because of what happened in the 1970s with the aborted return to their atoll, they want the entire island of Bikini excavated and the soil removed to a depth of about 15 inches (38 cm). Scientists involved with the Bikinians have stressed that while the excavation method would rid the island of the Caesium-137, the removal of the topsoil would severely damage the environment, turning it into a virtual wasteland of windswept sand. The Council, however, feeling a responsibility toward their people, has repeatedly contended that scraping Bikini is the only way to guarantee safe living conditions on the island for future generations.

          A 1998 International Atomic Energy Agency report found that Bikini is still not safe for habitation, because of dangerous levels of radiation. Bikini Atoll was entered into the list of UNESCO World Heritage sites on 3 August 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/...

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          I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
          ~John F. Kennedy~

          -7.5,-5.8

          by Oldestsonofasailor on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 05:37:13 PM PST

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        •  Remote areas, not necessarily groundbursts (0+ / 0-)

          Fallout is at its hottest for the first several days.

          Set one off in an inhabited area, and everyone will end up like the crew of the Lucky Dragon.

          Set one off with the aim of destroying a hardened site, and the amount of radioactive dirt kicked up would boggle the mind.

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