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  •  (((joanneleon))) (5+ / 0-)

    Poetry is one of my loves.  I'm the geezer among the young ones in every poetry class I can manage to enroll in at the nearby college and I can tell you this - I've never heard a professor say there is a wrong or stupid interpretation of a poem.

    Moreover, it doesn't seem to me that you are terrible at it at all!  It does appear aligned with your comment above, as you say.  The poet speaks of two aspects- horror and beauty.  How in the heck can we ever reconcile those?  Yet, the poet seems to gesture in that direction with the title of the poem. Similarly, how can we reconcile "gobsmacked and not surprised"?  I think these are real-life moral dilemmas, our struggle in being fully human.

    •  great answer! (4+ / 0-)

      thanks for the geezer wisdom. B)

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 06:37:04 PM PST

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      •  Thank you, joe, (3+ / 0-)

        and Agathena for discussing the poem.  Partly, I take the classes because hearing others' perspectives is valuable to me, so your discussion was a delight to see.  I was busy typing while you two were posting, so it was a surprise.  
        :-D  

        I like accessing the thoughts of the young ones in class - widened horizons and all - but there is one downside. On a number of occasions some class discussions have made clear to me the detriment of their having grown up knowing nothing but belligerent foreign policy.  I just want to hug them all and say, "we don't have to be like this, you know!"  It's kind of heart wrenching; there's some level of acquiescence there.

        •  Having three (4+ / 0-)

          teenaged sons, I know just what you mean.  They've grown up mostly in the post 9/11 era.  I do what I can but it's a big world out there and I compete with a lot of other influences.


          "Justice is a commodity"

          by joanneleon on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 07:39:00 PM PST

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        •  i know what you mean... (3+ / 0-)

          i was at pains some years ago to explain some things to my daughter.  we got to talking about why cars used to have fins on them and it led to a discussion that was kind of depressing for me.  i explained to her that when i was young it was common for people to look forward to the future with great anticipation of how the world and people's lives would improve.  we had our problems, to be sure, but we were certain that science and good government and well-intentioned people working together were going to create a world where poverty, racism and war would disappear and we would go on to explore space and perhaps understand the mysteries of the universe.  i went to the library and borrowed a couple of episodes of star trek for her to watch as an example of the optimism that was prevalent years before she was born.

          i still am not sure where that good will and hope went, how we were convinced that life was meant to be nasty, brutish and short for the vast majority of us on earth.  i feel awful about the world that my kid is inheriting sometimes.

          i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

          by joe shikspack on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 07:40:48 PM PST

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    •  Yes, that is a very good way (3+ / 0-)

      to explain it.  Thanks, dharma :)

      They do coexist and are hard to reconcile, and it is a dilemma.


      "Justice is a commodity"

      by joanneleon on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 07:35:23 PM PST

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