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  •  There is only one way to find out for sure. (12+ / 0-)

    Talk your state legislator or congresscritter into passing such a law.  Good luck on that.  Seriously.  Aside from the fact there are probably fewer than a dozen members of Congress who would feel safe in introducing such legislation, getting it passed would be quite another thing.  And assuming hypothetically it did pass, it would be subject to an injunction in Federal District Court before the ink was dry on it.  Then the legal fun would begin.

    The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

    by Otteray Scribe on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 12:12:22 AM PST

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    •  it will happen eventually (4+ / 0-)
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      the only question is when

      And it will pass constitutional muster.

      •  Get your law passed. (11+ / 0-)

        Only way to find out for sure.

        The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

        by Otteray Scribe on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 12:31:10 AM PST

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        •  Fight to get it passed (0+ / 0-)

          Don't just sit there suggesting others do it.

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          Who is twigg?

          by twigg on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 08:32:16 AM PST

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          •  Twigg, I only pick battles I can win. (9+ / 0-)

            I do not tilt at windmills.  I am a long time student of Sun Tsu.  He warned about trying to fight a battle on enemy ground where there is no hope of winning.   I have been trying to point out the futility of this particular battle at this particular time.  If you want to create scofflaws and a black market, pass laws that are unenforceable.  If nothing else, the 18th Amendment fiasco should have taught everyone that.  I have no problem with registration, as I said earlier. It is a good idea. But enforcement is going to be inefficient and ineffective at this point in time.  The huge amount of money and manpower needed to implement the proposal cannot be justified on the basis of expected (hoped for) return.

            There are battles that CAN and MUST be won.  Mental health care.  Alcoholism.  PTSD treatment.  More effective and better trained law enforcement.  And do something about the so-called war on drugs.  Those are battles that are winnable, but only with great effort.  

            Last week, when the weather was bad, my pretty twenty-something daughter was one of only five officers who could make it in to work.  She and four other officers had to run a four-story jail that is full to the legal limit all by themselves.  That put her life at risk, because many of the "guests" at the Sheriff's bed and breakfast inn are not very nice people.  That damn jail could be half empty if the mentally ill had a place to go besides jail. The average stay at the nearest psychiatric hospital is three days.  They are going to "cure" a coke habit and suicidal ideation in three days?

            The people on marijuana charges should be at home instead of in jail for possession of an ounce of pot.  Then they could stop releasing DUI offenders early with no treatment, so they can go out and get loaded again and kill people.   I heard a news story earlier that two small children, 5 and 2 years old, were killed by a drunk driver. They were not killed by a gun, but by a 12-pack of Budweiser and a Ford.

            In the previous comment, my meaning was the equivalent of "Be my guest."  Note my sig line.  I think it addresses my way of thinking rather well.

            The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

            by Otteray Scribe on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 01:47:21 PM PST

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      •  no it won't (5+ / 0-)

        people be will never be held responsible for what people do with objects that are stolen from them in a western democracy.

        •  they already are (0+ / 0-)

          You are liable for hazardous wastes you produce, even if someone steals them from you.

          You are liable for attractive nuisances, even if children trespass onto your property.

          Some things are so inherently dangerous that people are required to have strict liability, including the obligation to ensure that the dangerous objects cannot be stolen or misappropriated.   Those that choose not to accept that liability suffer no consequences by simply not purchasing the dangerous stuff.

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