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  •  false argument (5+ / 0-)

    You don't have the right to own absolutely ANY gun.  That right can be, and already has been, restricted. The 2nd Amendment is not absolute, any more than the 1st Amendment is.

    And criminals do NOT have the right to own a gun, in any case. And the argument here is about criminals with guns.

    The argument goes:

    Criminals getting guns/robbing banks is bad.

    Criminals get guns/rob banks anyway.

    Therefore we shouldn't waste our time with laws against criminals getting guns/bank robbery.

    Still silly.

    •  Wasn't an argument, its a statement of facts (7+ / 0-)
      Therefore we shouldn't waste our time with laws against bank robbery

      Its hard to pin someone down when theyre being sarcastic. Hard to know what their point is
      Can I assume from that that youre being sarcastic? it seemed a good conclusion.
      Can I also assume from that that what youre saying is that, if we can make laws against bank robbery we can make them against---and where's where you get a little murky---gun owership? Or are you saying just a certain type of gun? You're not specific at all.

      So I went with the  logical inference that you were saying that if we can pass laws against bank robbery we can pass them against all guns or certain guns.

      False equivalency there, pal, getting a law against guns or a certain gun is a lot different than getting a lw agist bak robbery because---and follow this closely---you have a right to won a gun in this country (unless a felon or other restruictions BUT YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHT TO ROB A BANK!
      Got it? gun ownership: a right (with certain restrictions)
      Bank robbery: no right, under ANY restrictions.
      Its false equivalency to compare creating laws against gun ownership and bank robbery. Not the same thing at all. No argument just a simple statement of facts

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 05:58:47 AM PST

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