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  •  What's stupid is, B-P never meant (0+ / 0-)

    that morally straight had anything to do with the sexual mores of the time.  

    The older editions talk about doing the right thing, being a good person, growing up to be a man who treats other people with respect, being kind to those less fortunate than you, etc.  

    The older editions have a particular emphasis on respecting women and treating them like fragile flowers (the pre-WWII versions).  Help your mother stuff.  Don't talk back.  Don't sass.  

    Having good morals was all about your CHARACTER.  Nothing else.  

    It's been taken over by the ultra conservative religions to be all about sexual behavior, when it was never meant to be about that at all, other than in the content of your character - people of good character don't generally behave "immorally."  Doesn't matter whether you're straight or gay - man or woman - your bedroom behavior is your business and there's no reason for anybody other than your partner to wonder if you're indulging in something they might consider "immoral."  What happens between mutually consenting adults is their own business.  

    What's OK with me, might not be OK with my mother's generation, but your own character defines your morals.  It used to be "immoral" to live together without getting married first.  Now it's no big deal.  Lots of people do it.  My mother still thinks it's awful, but she's 86.  My son & daughter-in-law lived together before they got married and it was no big deal to me, his dad, or her parents.  But any grandparent over 70 got weird about it.  

    My mom, despite the fact that her only grandchild is an Eagle Scout, was Salutatorian of his high school class, went to college on a scholarship (undergrad) and graduated high honors, went to vet school, was known for community service projects every where he went (used to tell us it felt weird to NOT being doing some conservation project or something to fix broken playgrounds and whatnot, so he always volunteered for stuff), became a vet, met another vet, fell in love, planned a wedding, got married, bought a house, etc.  but GASP! he and his fiancee rented a house together for a whole year before the wedding...  that's supposed to outweigh all the good things about him?  Why?  

    Worse, as far as my mom is concerned, my sister in law, who is my son's age (ex's half sister) is a lesbian.  She and her wife have a little boy, my nephew.  He's smart and funny and just turned 6 - perfect for Cub Scouts - we'd love for him to be able to participate, but with 2 moms, we're not signing anybody up.  My mom keeps asking "what about that poor little boy?"  "How does he explain that he doesn't have a daddy?"  I'm like, mom, he has two moms.  He's got aunts and uncles and cousins.  He's got grandparents.  Nobody asks him "where's your daddy?" or "why do you have 2 moms?"  His friends in school just know this is his family - their families might look different from his, but he's NOT a "poor little boy."  Both of my sisters-in-law are good people.  One is a fire fighter / paramedic and works with USAR.   The other teaches deaf children and is a court interpreter for the deaf.  Throughout their lives they've done well in school and at work, they've contributed to their community, volunteered to help others.  My SIL's USAR team is one of the ones that went to help after Katrina.  They went to Haiti after the earthquake.  They saved 7 people from a collapsed building, at the risk of their own lives.  Is she not a good person?  

    People can be so weird about "morals."  

    "Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." - Barack Obama

    by Ricochet67 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 05:47:03 AM PST

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